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Official NiM EC Title ("the Warstalker") Progression Thread

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Official NiM EC Title ("the Warstalker") Progression Thread

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AshlaBoga
01.13.2013 , 04:51 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Haargh View Post
Waay to late to start a Progression Thread for this imo. Congratulation if you cleared this in 2 hours and have a feel of urgency to share it with us, but most of the gulds that cleared it 6 weeks ago, probably dont have the required items to share it with you.

I know we dont, still we cleared it back in november.
I haven't gotten the title yet actually, I was under the impression that Derkae had already made this thread and was disappointed to discover that was not the case. I probably won't have this title until February at the earliest. This isn't about me, this is about keeping track of the World Progression Guilds - I ain't in one of them.

It's more about trying to right the lack of an in-game World First system - I may not like WoW, but they got that part right. If I'd known this thread didn't exist I would have made it the day before NiM EC hit live.
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Krewel
01.13.2013 , 05:29 AM | #12
Quite proud of my guild (Saga from TOFN (EU)) we managed to get the title under enormously difficult circumstances - lack of people, lack of interest, horrendous server, people quitting left and right, etc. With the title run we were hoping we'd get more people interested in doing some real PvE with a guild that can pull its weight. Alas, it was all in vain. In SWTOR "achievements" like this simply either go unnoticed (because of lack of sites like wowprogress.com or lack, lack of hardcore players, lack of an actual achievement system, etc.) or are irrelevant in the "casual" scheme of things.

I remember in WoW people trying to flock to a certain guild as soon as that guild made some substantial progress, recruitment was all over the place, people competing to get into the "best" guild ... in SWTOR nothing of the sort is happening. After the title run we actually lost people, not gained more. Noone cares, and those who do simply won't "embarrass" themselves by writing an application or being "serious" to attend scheduled raids.

So, getting the title was for my guild a double-edged sword: sure, we feel good about it, but we only lost people and gained noone. It's topsy-turvy in this game and I don't know how long I can stand this twisted reality.

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Haargh
01.13.2013 , 07:13 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Krewel View Post
Quite proud of my guild (Saga from TOFN (EU)) we managed to get the title under enormously difficult circumstances - lack of people, lack of interest, horrendous server, people quitting left and right, etc. With the title run we were hoping we'd get more people interested in doing some real PvE with a guild that can pull its weight. Alas, it was all in vain. In SWTOR "achievements" like this simply either go unnoticed (because of lack of sites like wowprogress.com or lack, lack of hardcore players, lack of an actual achievement system, etc.) or are irrelevant in the "casual" scheme of things.

I remember in WoW people trying to flock to a certain guild as soon as that guild made some substantial progress, recruitment was all over the place, people competing to get into the "best" guild ... in SWTOR nothing of the sort is happening. After the title run we actually lost people, not gained more. Noone cares, and those who do simply won't "embarrass" themselves by writing an application or being "serious" to attend scheduled raids.

So, getting the title was for my guild a double-edged sword: sure, we feel good about it, but we only lost people and gained noone. It's topsy-turvy in this game and I don't know how long I can stand this twisted reality.
Thats exactly the reason why we dont post our progress on the forums after we kill the bosses. Beating the content with friends should give you enough satisfaction to wait for the next content.
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Haargh
01.13.2013 , 07:15 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
I haven't gotten the title yet actually, I was under the impression that Derkae had already made this thread and was disappointed to discover that was not the case. I probably won't have this title until February at the earliest. This isn't about me, this is about keeping track of the World Progression Guilds - I ain't in one of them.

It's more about trying to right the lack of an in-game World First system - I may not like WoW, but they got that part right. If I'd known this thread didn't exist I would have made it the day before NiM EC hit live.
Thank for putting in the effort, i didnt want to offend you, just pointed out, that making a spot on list for the titles wont be easy 6 weeks after the first kills.
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Krewel
01.13.2013 , 08:24 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Haargh View Post
Thats exactly the reason why we dont post our progress on the forums after we kill the bosses. Beating the content with friends should give you enough satisfaction to wait for the next content.
I don't really follow your logic. As I said in connection to WoW, the top guild's achievements, dedication and effort attracted/attracts a multitude of players who want to be part of that. You want to spread the news of your success and want to spread the playerbase, expand your guild, expand the progression, etc. In this game the prospect of "waiting for next content" is diminishing as months go by because people are leaving left and right. The only logical thing to do is to try to recruit more people by spreading the news of your current feats, and not to keep the "success" to yourself.

Not that it matters in my case, since most of the people on TOFN would rather dribble on the fleet than do EC NiM, but I really don't see how making yourself secluded and keeping things secret (like obtaining the timed run) will help you in future endeavours, especially in SWTOR where the raiding community is being undermined as months go by. If this trend continues, there will be far less serious raiding guilds attempting Makeb Operations than what we've seen so far.

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Haargh
01.13.2013 , 09:28 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Krewel View Post
I don't really follow your logic. As I said in connection to WoW, the top guild's achievements, dedication and effort attracted/attracts a multitude of players who want to be part of that. You want to spread the news of your success and want to spread the playerbase, expand your guild, expand the progression, etc. In this game the prospect of "waiting for next content" is diminishing as months go by because people are leaving left and right. The only logical thing to do is to try to recruit more people by spreading the news of your current feats, and not to keep the "success" to yourself.

Not that it matters in my case, since most of the people on TOFN would rather dribble on the fleet than do EC NiM, but I really don't see how making yourself secluded and keeping things secret (like obtaining the timed run) will help you in future endeavours, especially in SWTOR where the raiding community is being undermined as months go by. If this trend continues, there will be far less serious raiding guilds attempting Makeb Operations than what we've seen so far.
I understand your logic, but 2 things you need to consider. 1. This isnt WoW where is the only measurement of the success is trying to get as high on the wowprogress list as you can. I dont see why we need this kind of measurement. I measure our success by beating MY expectations, and achieveing the kills while having fun. 2. The recruits you gain from your success mostly just not worth it. Our guild is a 8 men guild, and we always tried to limit our raiders number to as low (we never had more than 8 raiders) as we can, while trying to keep the members morale as high as we can. Its a friendly guild - we had some ups and downs, but luckily we never had to stop this high level raiding.
We arent keeping our progress as kind of secret, as everyone uses the Warstalker title, but we arent believing that we need the same kind of E-peen as we used to in WoW.

(Sorry about any grammar faults, this isnt ma native language)
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AshlaBoga
01.22.2013 , 10:42 PM | #17
I'm not doing a 16 man spreadsheet since other than ACE no one seems interested in doing a 16 man title run (and let's face it, it's hard to prove you did a 16 man timed run unless you record the entire >2hr).
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Krazy_Karl
01.23.2013 , 10:54 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by devtek View Post
The Gray Order

Has completed timed NM EC RUN....WARSTALKER Booya
http://i.imgur.com/8GPJ7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5JemG.jpg

Also New Mount from Kephess (not the tank, PRAXON FIRAXA)
http://i.imgur.com/ktO5j.jpg
The Gray Order - The Shadowlands
NiM Kephess Title Run - 11.27.2012 , 10:48 PM EST

You can check the timestamp on the post itself I am quoting from and with the screenshot upload dates.

As far as I could tell from the original progression thread, I believe we were 3rd worldwide. We have the video of the kill as well.

Regards,
KK
Try not. Do or do not, there is no try. - Yoda

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ConnorDuthie
01.23.2013 , 12:22 PM | #19
As far as i am aware Nostrum dolus goot world 1st and archetype got world 2nd

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Sequator
01.23.2013 , 12:47 PM | #20
Guild: Inconsistency
Server: Tomb of Freedon Nadd
Faction: Republic
Timed run: 29.11.2012 - 20:23 (GMT+1)