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USCG_Davis
01.03.2013 , 11:13 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by DSpectre View Post
You have the Completely wrong gender there.

and yeah i have a right to insult them if they insulted me by basically saying im incompetent. and no one in a GAME should have to deal with that. its a game. not real life. it shouldnt be this harsh of an environment.

and getting stuck is my fault? yeah, keep telling yourself that.

more and more you are basically THE definition of what i deal with in group finder. be more courteous to players who are looking to have a good time.

and some of us havent done the flash points "hundreds of times".

the group is as strongest as its weakest link so therefore the group must be acoustomed to it. and if people run the flashpoints because its a waste of time, then why run them? do something else instead of making other players' game more rough
You are incompetent. YOU wiped the group. Justify that one. And yes, YOU are in control of your character. YOU got stuck. YOUR fault.

And I know it's a game. I love this game. I have a blast playing it. Untill people like you show up in group finder. Just like you're bashing the players in GF and me on the forums; there are just as many threads trashing noobs who make GF miserable: people who wipe us, people who watch story lines, people who don't know how to skip...all you "weak links". I run the GF for the BH comms for the Hazmat implants/earpieces for my companions. So I do have reason to run them and want them done with out people costing me money for repairs
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DSpectre
01.03.2013 , 11:19 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Fiamma_Verde View Post
I don't think that getting stuck is the op's fault. It happens, and if they haven't done it before they don't know the exact right places to go to skip. Really if the group decides that they are going skip everything they should at leat have the courtesy to stick with the new guy so if trash is pulled it can be dealt with easily and not while everyone is spread out. Plus the person could have done T5 a hundred times before trying it as a hm and not know how to skip through everything, so saying that it's the player's responsibility to know how to do this is a little cold.


I dunno why tionese gear wouldn't be good enough ei ther. Especially since it is my understanding that their set bonus is kind of useless (I could be wrong on that one though). Just don't que for LI HM with only tionese without knowing what you're doing and it shouldn't be an issue.


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DSpectre
01.03.2013 , 11:28 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by USCG_Davis View Post
You are incompetent. YOU wiped the group. Justify that one. And yes, YOU are in control of your character. YOU got stuck. YOUR fault.

And I know it's a game. I love this game. I have a blast playing it. Untill people like you show up in group finder. Just like you're bashing the players in GF and me on the forums; there are just as many threads trashing noobs who make GF miserable: people who wipe us, people who watch story lines, people who don't know how to skip...all you "weak links". I run the GF for the BH comms for the Hazmat implants/earpieces for my companions. So I do have reason to run them and want them done with out people costing me money for repairs

And I can now see you are the type of person I had the pleasure of gaming with today using group finder. So how is everything my fault when things are literally out of my control? I guarantee you got stuck in missions as well. And you are going to use retorts, make sure that they are intelligent and actually have a point other than ripping on a single person because their play style doesn't fit yours.

I merely posted something I don't like and gave an opinion on it. You have done so as well but now you are bashing me directly. I have not said anything against you and you have already said more than enough insults to me. So look who is in the wrong here. A person who has not said a single insult directly at you and you over there loud mouthing insults left And right at me. Tell me.. Would you say the same stuff to your family?


I get that I'm not as "experienced" as some of the other seasoned players out there. But I'm still learning and you can't insult a person who has not Done a single thing wrong. There is a learning curve to this game.


All I have stated is people's behavior and temperament towards inexperienced people and I'm saying its oppressive. And you, sir, are the prime example of my argument
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jedimasterjac
01.03.2013 , 11:29 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by DSpectre View Post
And I can now see you are the type of person I had the pleasure of gaming with today using group finder. So how is everything my fault when things are literally out of my control? I guarantee you got stuck in missions as well. And you are going to use retorts, make sure that they are intelligent and actually have a point other than ripping on a single person because their play style doesn't fit yours.

I merely posted something I don't like and gave an opinion on it. You have done so as well but now you are bashing me directly. I have not said anything against you and you have already said more than enough insults to me. So look who is in the wrong here. A person who has not said a single insult directly at you and you over there loud mouthing insults left And right at me. Tell me.. Would you say the same stuff to your family?


I get that I'm not as "experienced" as some of the other seasoned players out there. But I'm still learning and you can't insult a person who has not Done a single thing wrong. There is a learning curve to this game.


All I have stated is people's behavior and temperament towards inexperienced people and I'm saying its oppressive. And you, sir, are the prime example of my argument
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Beattle
01.03.2013 , 11:59 PM | #15
I don't mind new people doing one of the listed hm's to get better gear. What drives me nuts, is are the people who Que for them without having done them in Story mode. I will put up with a new healer/dps/tank as long as they are willing to learn. I just did an Ess run, which is long enough, but one person decides to watch every damn cut scene, it gets to you. That should have been watched in SM, not with a bunch of exp people with you who would like to get it done. I used to laugh at people who kept spamming "spacebar", now, i feel thier pain. Watch the damn thing once, twice, 3 times, or howmany times you want... in STORY MODE. That is what its there for.

When i'm on my dps, i have no problem leaving groups that watch cut scenes, you will find another, and, I will find another group that wants to just get it done.

Getting stuck happens. As for pulling what you agro'd to group, well, in most cases, even after you die, they will find the rest of the group anyways.
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Zamppa
01.04.2013 , 12:55 AM | #16
Ah yet another topic about this "elitistic behaviour" of people who have done the same HM FPs too many times. I feel for you OP and I can tell you there have been several threads on about this matter recently as unfortunately the behaviour you just experienced has become a norm around Group Finder generated groups. It's all about skipping as much enemies and bosses as possible and ranting to people who are not familiar with all the possible skipping routes. I have been around since the early access launch and I still enjoy watching voiced conversations and doing the HMs as they are intended, killing all the bosses and nearly all thrash mobs.

I sincerely feel sorry because what has happened to you and I hope you won't let this to affect you too much. Just put those kind or jerks into your ignore-list so Group Finder won't put you into same groups with you anymore. I'm very sad to notice so many people seem to have forgotten we all have been at that point at some point, we all have been doing those HMs in rather poor end game gear for the first times and needed some help and tips how to clear this and that but nowadays it's only vote kicking, whining and calling those people names who are there for their first times and possibly asking for hints and full runs. It's really sad and probably drives other players away leaving only those "busy whining people" to skip with each other, which is not how the game was originally intended to be played. So OP, get your head up and group again, I'm sure you will find groups that are satisfactory!
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Projawa
01.04.2013 , 01:10 AM | #17
Just ignore these jerks. I've been playing since launch and while I really prefer that people skip mobs/cutscenes I know that there are a lot more new players around so I explain things and help them along. We all start somewhere and I remember being in their shoes at the start of each new MMO.

What you described wouldn't stop me from playing but I do sigh at how rude and entitled some people behave.

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DSpectre
01.04.2013 , 01:20 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Zamppa View Post
Ah yet another topic about this "elitistic behaviour" of people who have done the same HM FPs too many times. I feel for you OP and I can tell you there have been several threads on about this matter recently as unfortunately the behaviour you just experienced has become a norm around Group Finder generated groups. It's all about skipping as much enemies and bosses as possible and ranting to people who are not familiar with all the possible skipping routes. I have been around since the early access launch and I still enjoy watching voiced conversations and doing the HMs as they are intended, killing all the bosses and nearly all thrash mobs.

I sincerely feel sorry because what has happened to you and I hope you won't let this to affect you too much. Just put those kind or jerks into your ignore-list so Group Finder won't put you into same groups with you anymore. I'm very sad to notice so many people seem to have forgotten we all have been at that point at some point, we all have been doing those HMs in rather poor end game gear for the first times and needed some help and tips how to clear this and that but nowadays it's only vote kicking, whining and calling those people names who are there for their first times and possibly asking for hints and full runs. It's really sad and probably drives other players away leaving only those "busy whining people" to skip with each other, which is not how the game was originally intended to be played. So OP, get your head up and group again, I'm sure you will find groups that are satisfactory!

Thank you sir! You have made my night =)
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Zamppa
01.04.2013 , 01:30 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by DSpectre View Post
Thank you sir! You have made my night =)
No problem my friend! It's always fun and satisfactory to find other people around who actually like to play the game, you know watch the voiced conversations BW used quite much effort to create and actually use your character's skills to cut through enemies. This is a roleplaying game built around fighting after all, platforming jumping games are basically on Nintendo consoles and are called Mario-games
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DSpectre
01.04.2013 , 01:46 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Zamppa View Post
No problem my friend! It's always fun and satisfactory to find other people around who actually like to play the game, you know watch the voiced conversations BW used quite much effort to create and actually use your character's skills to cut through enemies. This is a roleplaying game built around fighting after all, platforming jumping games are basically on Nintendo consoles and are called Mario-games
Indeed! More people like you should be playing the game.

And in reference to endgame gear, I just stripped the mods off it and put it on revans. I actually just completed my first hard mode flashpoint on FOUNDRY with decent people and I for once owned the group so I didn't get kicked! But with those mods, revans robes are just as good they give same stats as the original armor they were on. And I more than held my own against hk and revan so I'm quite proud of myself and proved those people wrong who said I had ****** gear =)
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