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Gearing for EC HM


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emidas
12.30.2012 , 12:30 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
It's weird, but it works. I require less healing than any other tank I've ever run with (thanks to massive mitigation stacking, the marginal decrease in self healing is negligible), and not even the worst threat offenders can pull off of me (Assault VGs, Sentinels, etc.). It's gotten to the point where I don't even bother with Guard or taunt unless there is an explicit taunt swap required; my threat is just *that* massive.
I just wanted to say that as an AssSpec VG, I'm able to blow everything - Battle Focus + DG Boundless Ages Relic, though I haven't used an Adrenal in conjunction yet with Kitru - and blow through my initial burn phase, and continue my normal priority rotation in a fight without pulling once. I can' say that about any other tank I've really ran with. It may not be "necessary", but getting to start on a boss immediately instead of having to throttle at the beginning is a big plus.
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YESWEKEN
01.03.2013 , 03:28 AM | #22
Kitru, with that gear build, what is the toughest content you've run? Have you run 16 player Nightmare mode EC?
Just curious because my guild is running NiM EC 16 and I am tempted to try out something more along the lines of crazy threat generation.

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Kitru
01.03.2013 , 07:07 AM | #23
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Kitru, with that gear build, what is the toughest content you've run? Have you run 16 player Nightmare mode EC?
I don't do 16 man (I had a guild that did it back in ye olden days of 1.1 but I just didn't enjoy the hassle of running with that many people). If I did, I would need a bit more hp (switch out some of the Resolve Armorings for Force Wielder to get to ~27k with Stim) to give healers the larger window of reaction time during high burst phases, which is what I recommend for it.
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YESWEKEN
01.04.2013 , 03:28 AM | #24
Thanks, the 27k hp mark is what I was kind of aiming for while trying to get max threat gen and max mitigation.
this is what I'm aiming for, (mainly just in terms of stats) but it's only a 1st draft, I think it will be drastically different in terms of augments / relics / crystals / and a couple of armorings when I'm done.

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saintedMOOK
01.05.2013 , 10:55 PM | #25
It looks like both of your builds are identical except his starts stacking power where you go for more endurance. Do you find that you are able to maintain threat generation like he was referring to? I'm more of a fan of endurance as well, but like his idea of exchanging HP for threat maintenance. I appreciate both your ideas and insight.

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Kitru
01.05.2013 , 11:35 PM | #26
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It looks like both of your builds are identical except his starts stacking power where you go for more endurance.
The biggest difference, as I see it, is that he uses 2 passive PvP relics and I use the heal and absorb proc relic and the Willpower augs where I use Defense augs. He would probably manage slightly worse threat generation (he has slightly higher crit thanks to higher Willpower but I have a good deal more bonus damage because of the power from the Def augs and the heal proc relic) but have less mitigation because of the choice to use said augs (the benefits of the proc relics aren't factored into the flat stats).

Honestly, considering how easy it is to threat fluff by taunt spamming, I don't really think it's appropriate to drop your mitigation just to reach a slightly higher amount of HP. If you want more hp, don't drop your mitigation to get there; it's acting counter to your survivability to do. Just use the Force Wielder Armorings and Indestructible crystals. With all the same augs, enhs, relics, and mods, you'll get to 26.7k hp which is close enough to 27k for gov't work without dropping your mitigation to get there.
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saintedMOOK
01.08.2013 , 12:32 PM | #27
Thanks, Kitru. This is my first tank so there is a lot to learn. My main is a sage seer so I think that lends some insight into my gameplay based on runs with other tanks. What does your rotation look like as a shadow tank? Thanks again for your response, this was just what I was looking for.

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Kitru
01.08.2013 , 12:55 PM | #28
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What does your rotation look like as a shadow tank?
I use the DS-less priority:

(0. Spinning Strike, when possible, is top priority)
1. TkT (w/ 3 HS stacks)
2. Project or Slow Time (alternating so that you do Proj>ST>Proj for your first 3 HS stacks and ST>Proj>ST for your second and back and forth; you do this to maintain Force neutrality)
3. Force Breach (to maintain debuff, functionally on CD)
4. DS (if and only if you have over 70 Force and regeneration would be wasted before your other abilities come off of CD)
5. Saber Strike
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saintedMOOK
01.08.2013 , 01:10 PM | #29
You're a good man, thanks. Is a 61 gear level equivalent capable of doing NiM EC or TfB HM?

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Kitru
01.08.2013 , 01:34 PM | #30
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Is a 61 gear level equivalent capable of doing NiM EC or TfB HM?
That's what it's designed for. You might have problems on the later bosses, but you should be able to handle at least the early bosses.
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