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Gearing for EC HM


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Kitru
12.29.2012 , 11:50 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterGladius View Post
I'm thinking that the Endurance would be better for a tank, but I wanted to be sure before I blow all of my commendations on the wrong mods/enhancements.
I'm often considered to be one of the crazier tanks to talk to about Endurance because I explicitly minimize my Endurance: I'm in full 63 gear and I use Resolve Hilt and Armoring (lots of Willpower and very little Endurance), unlettered 27 mods (which have lots of WP and mitigation but very little Endurance), and Bastion enhancements (high Shield rating instead of high Endurance). The only "high Endurance" item I have my absorb proc relic, and that's because it doesn't come in any other flavor (I do use the Fort stim, but that's only because it comes with Defense rating; the Endurance is just a rider).

That said, I've never had *anyone* tell me that I'm hard to heal and I've had *lots* of people tell me that they love running with me because I *never* lose threat so the DPS can rip into their targets right from the get go. I've never seen the use in having a lot of Endurance, and I prefer not to have it on any of my 3 tanks.

Now, to answer your question, I *always* prioritize mitigation (Defense/Shield/Absorb) over Willpower over Endurance, but I also look explicitly at the armoring/mod/enh when getting a piece of gear rather than the totaled values. Unless you're buying "fresh" gear with nothing usable to upgrade, I would just buy BH gear for the mods/enhs that you want.
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12.29.2012 , 11:52 AM | #12
Then that would be the gloves. They give the biggest bang for the buck. I was just considering Endurance because that makes the TK ticks heal more, albeit slightly.

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12.29.2012 , 11:59 AM | #13
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Then that would be the gloves. They give the biggest bang for the buck. I was just considering Endurance because that makes the TK ticks heal more, albeit slightly.
The comparative increases to your self healing from Endurance stacking only begin to even approach the value of mitigation when you're in the absolute best gear around and, even then, they're a marginal improvement at best. Personally, I prefer to give my DPS the leeway to beat on targets harder and faster rather than provide myself with a smidge more hp that will, in all likelihood, be completely redundant and a smidge more hp/sec that is pretty much guaranteed to be eaten by overhealing (my healers prefer to keep me topped off rather than the ~90% that KeyboardNinja's healers do).
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MantorokTwelve
12.29.2012 , 01:03 PM | #14
Resolve over force wielder? That's definitely weird lol.

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12.29.2012 , 01:16 PM | #15
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Resolve over force wielder? That's definitely weird lol.
It's weird, but it works. I require less healing than any other tank I've ever run with (thanks to massive mitigation stacking, the marginal decrease in self healing is negligible), and not even the worst threat offenders can pull off of me (Assault VGs, Sentinels, etc.). It's gotten to the point where I don't even bother with Guard or taunt unless there is an explicit taunt swap required; my threat is just *that* massive.
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Missandei
12.29.2012 , 02:18 PM | #16
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It's weird, but it works. I require less healing than any other tank I've ever run with (thanks to massive mitigation stacking, the marginal decrease in self healing is negligible), and not even the worst threat offenders can pull off of me (Assault VGs, Sentinels, etc.). It's gotten to the point where I don't even bother with Guard or taunt unless there is an explicit taunt swap required; my threat is just *that* massive.
Could you please link your mrrobot armory?
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12.29.2012 , 03:53 PM | #17
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Could you please link your mrrobot armory?
You can just do a search for Kitru, which is probably the easiest way to find it. If that's too hard...
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12.29.2012 , 08:30 PM | #18
Okay... so I just did some gearing up, wiping out every instance of Accuracy that I could. I remodded all of my equipment and I now have x4 set bonus, mostly 61 rated items, besides a few 56 mods. All but 2 slots are augmented with Defense or Absorb.

Ending stats are ~40.25 DR, 27.31 Defense, 43.84 Shielding, 53.67 Absorb. Still have 1 enhancement with accuracy on it, but I figure one slot is forgivable.

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Missandei
12.30.2012 , 10:58 AM | #19
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You can just do a search for Kitru, which is probably the easiest way to find it. If that's too hard...
Something is not right with that profile.
Maybe you havent updated it for a long time? The askmrrobot have some glitches when new (1.4-1.5) patch data was compiled... You should recheck all the items.. Maybe your belt/sash are not accounted...

Health 24657.3
Armor Rating 4873.9
Damage Reduction 35.10%
Defense Chance 26.43%
Shield Chance 46.56%
Shield Absorption 58.30%
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12.30.2012 , 11:15 AM | #20
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You should recheck all the items.. Maybe your belt/sash are not accounted...
I've rechecked em all, but I've got higher Defense and armor rating in game than what it says there. I'm pretty sure the skill tree just doesn't parse certain talents correctly amongst other things. For example, only 2% Defense from skills/buffs is factored in, but I should be getting 6%; I'm pretty sure some stuff just isn't getting included whatsoever (DBSD definitely, the adaptive belt and bracers I'm using apparently don't contribute their armor rating because it doesn't recognize them as *having* armor rating; it also doesn't recognize that Shadowsight provide 2% resistance chance, not just 2% m/r defense chance). It doesn't really bother me though because I don't really need to check out AMR to see my stats; I can just go in game for that. If someone wants to do calcs on my survivability, all they need to do is switch out the adaptive belt/bracer for a static armor type while keeping the same mods and it works just fine. If people want to see my gear, on the other hand, it's all right there.
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