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Widespread use of Shii-Cho for Rage/Focus specs is not so lore-friendly?

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Widespread use of Shii-Cho for Rage/Focus specs is not so lore-friendly?

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Alec_Fortescue
11.23.2012 , 07:46 AM | #1
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_I:_Shii-Cho

Have a read if you're interested. This is the most basic form developed for use early on, during sword-lightsaber transition period and should not be utilized in lightsaber combat anymore as more sufficient forms were developed. It was an introductory form for all lightsaber adepts but after they learned the basics they moved on.

While the form was indeed practice and mastered by many it was very unlikely to be used it in combat once further forms were mastered.

It is very good that Shii-cho is the first form we learn but after we start developing our characters we should be moving toward something else and, to keep it lore-friendly, Shii-cho would have to become a useless ability.

I do regret there is no Makashi-utilizing class in this game. Would love to get a duelist like class/advanced class based on Count Dooku.
Atris' robes are great. But how about letting players wear the robes that are already in the game but not accessible to them?

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=720547 - Cool compilation of Jedi outfits worn by NPCs.

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Warren-Stride
11.23.2012 , 08:09 AM | #2
Shii-Cho was mastered and used very effectively by Kit Fisto. Master Fisto was on the high council and considered one of the best duelists in the Order during his time.

To quote Wookieepedia:
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In combat, Form I lightsaber combat was wild and raw, relying on deliberate tactics and being primarily aimed towards disarming rather than injuring foes, in keeping with Jedi philosophy. Basic initiates in the style demonstrated rather clumsy performance, though in the hands of a master, Shii-Cho was fluid but highly randomized and unpredictable.
This seems to fit rather well with the skill trees labled Rage and Focus.

Also, I'm not sure Shii-Cho is -technically- wide spread in SWTOR. Just because a lot of the PCs use it doesn't mean that it's a common form. And, even if it is, maybe Jedi just haven't fully learned their lesson yet.

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Alec_Fortescue
11.23.2012 , 11:00 AM | #3
It was so effective he went down within few seconds the moment he fought his first Sith...
Atris' robes are great. But how about letting players wear the robes that are already in the game but not accessible to them?

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=720547 - Cool compilation of Jedi outfits worn by NPCs.

Don't let your artists' work go to waste, Bioware

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Aurbere
11.23.2012 , 11:39 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Alec_Fortescue View Post
It was so effective he went down within few seconds the moment he fought his first Sith...
He was also fighting the most powerful Sith Lord ever, who had caught them completely off-guard. He didn't have much of a chance.

And to the topic at hand. Read this: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=544477
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"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Slowpokeking
11.23.2012 , 12:01 PM | #5
Marauder should use Jar'kai.

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Aurbere
11.23.2012 , 02:07 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
Marauder should use Jar'kai.
They do.
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oilfan
11.23.2012 , 04:18 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
He was also fighting the most powerful Sith Lord ever, who had caught them completely off-guard. He didn't have much of a chance.
Umm since when was Sidious the most powerful sith lord ever?????? He wasn't able to kill his master in the proper succession rituals of the sith. He killed Plaguis when he was drunk and half asleep.

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Rayla_Felana
11.23.2012 , 04:26 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by oilfan View Post
Umm since when was Sidious the most powerful sith lord ever?????? He wasn't able to kill his master in the proper succession rituals of the sith. He killed Plaguis when he was drunk and half asleep.
Yes he was, his master had already admitted that Sidious was more powerful than he was, Sidious saw it as both an opportunity to kill him with no chance of damaging himself and because it basically sickened him that this mighty Sith was off his face on alcohol. Sidious was easily the most powerful Sith just going off of his feats, abilities and prowess, he was also canonically named the most powerful Sith to ever exist as stated by Sidious, Chee and every writer who ever wrote an official Star Wars work, who had ever been asked the question of who was most powerful.

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GIF_Bluehawk
11.23.2012 , 06:26 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
Yes he was, his master had already admitted that Sidious was more powerful than he was, Sidious saw it as both an opportunity to kill him with no chance of damaging himself and because it basically sickened him that this mighty Sith was off his face on alcohol. Sidious was easily the most powerful Sith just going off of his feats, abilities and prowess, he was also canonically named the most powerful Sith to ever exist as stated by Sidious, Chee and every writer who ever wrote an official Star Wars work, who had ever been asked the question of who was most powerful.
Not entirely correct. While Darth Sidious is unquestionably powerful, and absolutely one of the most powerful to have ever existed, you could also easily make the argument that Marka Ragnos, Darth Bane, or even Revan were as powerful or perhaps even more powerful. The problem with this kind of dialogue is that the majority of Sith that qualify for being "most powerful" never exist in the same time frame. In other words, you can make the case that no single one of these Sith are the most powerful, and instead are simply the most powerful at the time of their existence.
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FINNT
11.23.2012 , 06:28 PM | #10
"Form I is the foundation upon which the remaining forms build. It is not the best style for blaster deflection or for lightsaber-to-lightsaber dueling, but it is superior all-around form you can fallback on in the heat of combat. Thus you must demonstrate a mastery of this form before you can continue."

- The Jedi Path


More like there should be combined forms in the game.
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