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Do you think more people are going to play because of the free-to-play option?

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Do you think more people are going to play because of the free-to-play option?

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Andryah
11.22.2012 , 01:10 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Grammarye View Post
You used the future tense when the present is adequately answering your question. Populations have never been higher.
I agree. The number of active instances on most of the planets has doubled from prior to patch for the time of day looked at (and not just the starter planets either), and I saw 5 intances of Fleet up a couple of nights ago. Servers are busy enough now that some people are complaining about crowded and hating on the free players (even though they can't easily tell who is sub vs who is free).

The more interesting question really is the average revenue per player per month and the conversion rates they see from free to sub. Will have to wait until EA earnings reports to get an idea on this though.
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Gomla
11.22.2012 , 01:15 PM | #12
Well, my wife made a free account and subbed soon after and she is incredibly fussy when it comes to games.

If it worked for her than it will work for others.

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Lunafox
11.22.2012 , 01:17 PM | #13
No, not really. I figure the freeloaders will swoop in, take advantage, and then the locusts will go away. Some might stay, but I'm not really holding my breath, because the best stuff has been given away free.

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fungihoujo
11.22.2012 , 01:20 PM | #14
F2P isn't awful- it's definitely not one of the better f2p options though.

It will get people to play- but not nearly as much as a well thought out f2p that acts like it actually wants people to play it.

Also, there's so many opportunities ignored. Sure, there's the cartel packs- which are obviously doing well looking at the thousands of items already on the GTN and armies of people flying around on thrones. Where's the 10 dollar minipets and 25 dollar mounts though? WoW is doing this as a p2p- and they're laughing all the way to the bank. It confuses me that EA wants to nickel and dime for UI options, which is a huge turn off for everyone- yet won't try to make big bucks on cosmetic things they know will sell.

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Kilikaa
11.22.2012 , 01:39 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Temad View Post

Writing is on the wall...stick a fork in SWTOR, lets hope the third SW MMO is the charm.
Where is this wall you supposedly see the writing on? The game has not even reached the one year mark yet and you say it's sunk. No game is perfect in it's first year. NONE! Warcraft was a piece of crap on day one and it is still a piece of crap. Yet that game is still around. Conan was crap on day one but last I heard it was still around.

The Old Republic is not sunk, the writing is not on the wall. Free to play is barely a week old. Nobody knows what it is going to do right now. Two months down the road, maybe one, things could be changed. Bioware may let the free players have three UI bars instead of two. Nobody knows right now what will happen so stop with the doomsday BS.

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althene
11.22.2012 , 01:41 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by fungihoujo View Post
F2P isn't awful- it's definitely not one of the better f2p options though.

It will get people to play- but not nearly as much as a well thought out f2p that acts like it actually wants people to play it.

Also, there's so many opportunities ignored. Sure, there's the cartel packs- which are obviously doing well looking at the thousands of items already on the GTN and armies of people flying around on thrones. Where's the 10 dollar minipets and 25 dollar mounts though? WoW is doing this as a p2p- and they're laughing all the way to the bank. It confuses me that EA wants to nickel and dime for UI options, which is a huge turn off for everyone- yet won't try to make big bucks on cosmetic things they know will sell.
This is literally the first of many things to come (so they say). The Blizzard stor didn't have jack when it first opened. Maybe a magical flying pony. And it stayed that way for months. Then a couple new things trickled in. They dipped their toe, saw the waters were safe and then waded into the river. It's a little different here since this is what is supposed to support the game, but you're silly to think that more is not to come. I believe I saw a quote saying there would be new items roughly every 4 to 6 weeks.

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Grammarye
11.22.2012 , 01:44 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Temad View Post
Uhh...are you serious?

We are at 8 servers and they aren't even full.
You clearly haven't been here long enough to know what those mean. When TOR launched, it had 200 small servers, each with about 5-10k people in it. As this dropped, they merged them together in a similar manner to the way GW1 works today (where you have a single 'server' but it's really many districts) causing some annoyance. Thus the status of a given server today is almost meaningless. You look at the populations per planet as a better indicator. If any servers get FULL that's actually a problem as it means login queues. The population supported per server is not necessarily fixed either. This is not some box on a shelf.
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Dicey
11.22.2012 , 02:43 PM | #18
Free to play may lure some new players that never played SWTOR before. But I think returning subcribers will be rare because there are too many restrictions. The f2p option is a lesser game than the prelaunch trial version. You can't even hide your helmet or color unify without spending money. Much worse is that you gain xp at a slower rate! And no xp bonus for logging out in a cantina. Which means you have to grind more to level. Returning players will find that hard to tolerate. Also don't forget that cartel coin purchases are charector based which makes it more expensive than subscribing if you want to play two stories. Legacy and "preferred" statues helps but doesn't cut it. The cartel market should only add to the game, it shouldn't restore what is subtracted by f2p. Therefore I think f2p is really not an option, it's just a marketing tool.

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-Me-
11.22.2012 , 03:24 PM | #19
My subscription ran out yesterday, I logged on today and found my characters wearing a helmet I have to nerf myself not to see, armor more akin to a clown because of no unify, no 3rd quickbar that I was already needing on my level 25 and the purple chest piece in my inventory I could of worn in 5 more levels being useless, and knowing my XP is now nerfed.

To unlock all those things will cost more coins than I was awarded as a subscriber and I can't bring myself to pay for things I feel should be basic features, hell, I don't even call those things features, they are core aspects of the game the way I see it.

I looked at a couple other F2P games I've dabbled with recently which neither have anything close to as restrictive for core aspects than this one. I get a little erked just thinking about it and now I honestly can't bring myself to log back in. Think TOR is done for me, who wants my stuff?

I'm seriously disappointed, Just out of principle from being a long time gamer I can't bring myself to pay for things like all these unlocks. Why does EA even want it's players looking stupid with no unify or not feel good about the look of a helmet? The planets are all level specific but they nerf the XP? After getting a couple levels under the stated level for a mission can make it very difficult if not impossible to complete. That's taking pay to win to a new extreme. I thought this getting less XP thing only meant no rested XP buy hell no it means less XP unless you buy XP boosters.

I just cant do it, the game offers nothing special and has been a filler until someone finally comes out with a original game set in sci-fi. Guess it's back to wishing luck for TheRepopulation. My ethics will not allow me to support this any longer.

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LonHawk
11.22.2012 , 03:34 PM | #20
My question to the last post, if you were subbed and enjoy the game, y aren't you re subbing?