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Nortumberland
11.21.2012 , 05:35 AM | #1
STOP joining the queue for the FP if you have no intentions to finish/start it. Jesus, I'm trying to hold myself together, but it's just insane! In 2 days, I've managed to complete Esseless/Hammer Station just once of 10-12 attempts. People just enter the instance, run around and then leave in silent. Or even better-need on everything, aggroing every pack and leaving if something goes wrong. OMG I used to play in the early start but 'gosh' it happened maybe 1 time on 100 and usually I didn't meet that person again.
Ok we have to wait for them coz they don't have sprint. Ok we should help them with their questions on stats/abilities. But jees we absolutely don't have to receive negative emotions, spending our time on players that don't respect others. I'm just wondering if it happens to low lvl FP, what happens in wz? Or in higher lvl FP where u can't just run'n'gun. I'm not a moaner at all. I have several 50's and do randoms with some strange ppl often. But now with this hell flood of F2P new-comers it's just insanity to lvl a new character. Mb it's just my bad luck, but I've met barely 2-3 senseble pesrons.
I've been preparing myself for a wave of ppl that will run around and do some quests not bothering me. But this is just ridiculous how they can ruin the pleasure.

So I just want to make it clear. I have nothing against newcomers. Even against newcomers with bad manners and attitude to others. But try to realise that along with you, lots of newcomers will get bad attitude from subscribers, because of prejudice you create. Be friendly and responsive to others- you will get the same back.

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sumuser
11.21.2012 , 08:01 AM | #2
I hear ya. However, I don't think F2P players can post on these forums, AND, chances are if they are that inconsiderate in-game I highly doubt they are reading the forums for self improvement

I don't know what I would do in your situation though... Advertise you are only LFG with players who have subs? I don't know if that breaks any game policies but its equally not fair to be forced to have your game experienced ruined by players who have no consideration for anyone but themselves. The other possibility is that there is an explosion of very young players (as in >12yrs). For obviously reasons, this player demographic would rarely make for a good group.
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Athena-Nike
11.23.2012 , 04:23 PM | #3
To answer your question about WZ's they are AWFUL now. Used to hate level 50 WZ's due to the abundance of premades running around ruining PUGs but its actually more fun to get owned that way then playing sub 50's with 3+ level 11 F2P'ers that just camp the nearest turret in silence, doing nothing, calling nothing, and still losing the turret to 1 suber

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Chlomamf
11.23.2012 , 04:46 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Nortumberland View Post
what happens in wz?
Ballcarriers thinking they can score on their own despite being halfway across the map and getting flooded by enemies, not passing to others when they're clearly about to die, ballcarriers not passing to stealthers who are literally jumping in the air for them to pass but fail to do so (yes, that stealther is me, it's extremely annoying when it happens).

And a few days ago it was ACW, I told everyone the usual tactic of '2-5-1' (2 cap East, 5 go cap mid, I go see if I can ninja West). And when we've all landed our speeders I see 4 (yes that's right, 4) going East. Funnily enough we won if I remember correctly.

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Aebrynis
11.24.2012 , 11:56 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Chlomamf View Post
Ballcarriers thinking they can score on their own despite being halfway across the map and getting flooded by enemies, not passing to others when they're clearly about to die, ballcarriers not passing to stealthers who are literally jumping in the air for them to pass but fail to do so (yes, that stealther is me, it's extremely annoying when it happens).

And a few days ago it was ACW, I told everyone the usual tactic of '2-5-1' (2 cap East, 5 go cap mid, I go see if I can ninja West). And when we've all landed our speeders I see 4 (yes that's right, 4) going East. Funnily enough we won if I remember correctly.
I have always disliked CW for that very reason - everyone thinks they have 'the goods' for the cap. With NC, you can at least tell people that only two are needed for cap/guard with a few moments to spare, but CW often does not afford that. Even standing on the dropship, people will call out 'going left', , another calls out 'will intercept', and they STILL get 2 or 3 others following them to the turret. Then I get stuck in the middle turret with one or two others, overwhelmed by five or six people. On level 50, it's often a matter of just doing my dailies and then going to an alt to do something - anything - else to get away from that mentality.

In a similar vein (and to get the post back to a FP orientation), I have alts languishing waiting to get decent groups for flashpoints - because it seems the overall average of the population has taken a precipitous dive in regards to knowing what's needed for flashpoints. I understand not knowing what's required - everyone needs to learn at some point, and there's always a first time. It's the people who refuse to learn or to 'play nice' that will ultimately define the F2P crowd.

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uniz
11.24.2012 , 12:17 PM | #6
all the issues you have stated was occurring way before f2p was here. in fact it was far worse the three months after release. many are still here in the fp hms and has been here since group finder 1.3.

the problem isn't f2p but rather peoples ill preconceived perceptions of what types of people play those mmos. i for one have 2 f2p accounts of non wow clone mmos. my friends have the same as does a few guildies. we dont have any issues in those games. the only issues we have are the wow and wow clone subscriber mmos player base who never learned any etiquette due to the games mechanics. whether or not these people pay or not pay for a subscription will make no difference, they will not have any manners either way. a subscription doesnt make people have any manners in a game period.

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Aebrynis
11.24.2012 , 12:28 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by uniz View Post
a subscription doesnt make people have any manners in a game period.
This is undeniably true. But we are, after all, presently operating on appearances and assumptions. And the assumptions will be that F2P is the main culprit, even if it is actually subscribers that are the ones acting like complete jackwipes.

You can often (though not always) tell, even at level 50 WZ level, who the F2P ones are - they show up for one, maybe two WZ's, regardless of ability or manners. And you are correct, there are doubtless polite, well-mannered F2P sorts who are willing to learn and play nice. But remember the axiom of 'first impressions stick', which is turning out to be true, in many cases.

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AidanLightwalker
11.24.2012 , 03:23 PM | #8
Great, after getting both the dread gaurd relics for the new daily zone, I was looking forward to going back and leveling my Juggernaut when I wasn't raiding but now I got this to look forward to??!! /perfect
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Khanic
11.24.2012 , 03:41 PM | #9
Warzones are %$@^ now sub 50. I recently resubbed and rerolled onto the PoT5 and I'm flabbergasted by how horrible some of these people are. No incoms, no passing, no nothing. They just run around like a chicken with their head cut off hoping their team will carry them for a win. Im actually looking forward to going to the 50 bracket so I can avoid most of these idiotic f2pers.

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DizzyrupTor
11.24.2012 , 05:06 PM | #10
Been levelling a new alt since f2p came out, not too far only just hit balmora @ lvl18 but regarding F2P players I have encountered on the way i have to say, for the most part, they have been very good to get on with. not grabbing all gear drops regardless of need or greed, of course as others have said there are some odd goings on in flashpoints, running all over the place looking for non-existant loot, backtracking, and of course leaving.

But overall while it can be frustrating at times I find it a nice change to have some new blood running around, as many of us that have been around since day 1 do sometimes come across as a bit elitist and snobby to one another, even more so at these players.

They just need some time guys

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