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Color crystals should be statless.

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Color crystals should be statless.

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MarkoJinn
11.19.2012 , 01:45 PM | #11
I think what they need with regards to crystals is not statless crystals abut adjustable stats crystals. This way I get 41 points and then I can decide whether they go into endurance, willpower, etc... This will also add a whole new dimension to the game since you could endlessly mess with different builds/settings for your character...
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Cyberwoman
11.19.2012 , 01:45 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by gabarooni View Post
Take the stats off em and move them into something else. IMO Color crystals should just be for color to add a little uniqness and diversity to your character.
I could not agree more. It would be a nice way to personalize our characters, without having to worry about stats and replacements.

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Gryphandor
11.19.2012 , 01:46 PM | #13
The stats on the crystal are often so minimal. Why does it matter?
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Xiahoufig
11.19.2012 , 01:48 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Gryphandor View Post
The stats on the crystal are often so minimal. Why does it matter?
If you're speaking generally, it really doesn't. However, in terms of min/maxing in both PvE and PvP, if you want maximum performance out of your character, you will do whatever is necessary to reach it.
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Calsetes
11.19.2012 , 01:58 PM | #15
As an Artificer, this is my suggestion:

I kind of dig the whole "focus crystal separate from color crystal" setup. However, what I am not keen on is rebuying, relearning, and re-reverse-engineering a metric butt-ton of crystals for all my lower-level alts that I craft them for.

Now, that said, if the crystals somehow were tweaked to do more than just basic "endurance / critical chance" boosts, then I'm definitely for it. If the colors Artificers get to make now are more varied - say, they get to make Blue, Cyan, Black-Blue, Black-Cyan, Purple, Pink, Red, Yellow, Orange, Green, Viridian, etc. color crystals - then that's also a good bonus, since I really wanted all my characters to have different colors of sabers / blaster bolts, and some of them just don't have any available options until either really high level, or a PvP item which has stats that are useless to a non-PvPer like me. Obviously some colors would need to stay "off-limits" for crafters, for whatever reason - Cartel Shop stuff like the White crystals, etc. But still, more basic colors earlier on are always better. Let us customize the crap out of our guys.

So, if executed really well, it could be awesome. If executed porly, it could really suck. I'm thinking, as far as Focus Crystals go, have a good mix. Endurance, Will, Strength, Aim, Cunning to cover basic stat increasers. Then, maybe a few specific crystals - Shield Chance / Absorption, Crit Chance / Surge, Power / Accuracy, etc. This way, they can pick to either stack up on a stat they're lacking in their gear, such as Endurance or Strength, or grab two "bonus stats" that their gear might also lack - like Crit Chance and Surge, or Power and Accuracy. Dual Wielders would get more of a boost, since they have two weapons and thus two crystals, but maybe that's the trade-off for being a pure DPS-spec - higher damage potential.

I don't have a head for balance, so it wouldn't surprise me if this doesn't seem popular because it's somehow overpowered for specific situations, but still - maybe a step in the right direction for a suggestion?


Edit: I should add, I'm all for color crystals being in the individual weapons, and not tied between dual wielders - I personalyl use a red saber and a blue saber, to show how my guy's more neutrally-aligned force-wise.
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Xiahoufig
11.19.2012 , 02:00 PM | #16
DWers wouldn't get an extra boost because they added moddable off-hand items just for that reason. I get what you're saying though.
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eldefail
11.19.2012 , 02:04 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Eillack View Post
^ This.

BW has said they are looking into this, but the slap to the face for Atificers would be something to worry about.

I'm still for a focus crystal to replace the stats.
I think that would satisfy the Artificers. Just convert all their current crystals to focus crystals and give them a generic color crystal schematic for each color they've already got available to craft. That way nobody loses their magenta schematics and such.

Once crystals become nothing but cosmetic I wonder what the prices will do. Will they go down since the market will be saturated with a ton of statless fluff items, or will some colors go up in price once the initial market bloat is handled?

The economy is another thing to consider for this reason. If all those statted magenta crystals all just became a plain cosmetic color crystal then instead of various level-appropriate crystals you now have a truck load of fluff. The prices would probably initially plummet, much to the dismay of higher level artificers who sell certain crystals for profit?

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LordArtemis
11.19.2012 , 02:06 PM | #18
I would like to see them as completely statless appearance items with a mod or augment slot.

That way you can add the stats you want for the color you desire to use.

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Calsetes
11.19.2012 , 02:09 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Xiahoufig View Post
DWers wouldn't get an extra boost because they added moddable off-hand items just for that reason. I get what you're saying though.
Ah, that explains why my one character had an orange shield when I logged in since coming back last week. I thought I had gone crazy or something.

Can artificers make filled or empty offhand generators and focii? And any idea where I would find the schematics? Sorry to wander off-topic a bit, but this is news to me.
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Xiahoufig
11.19.2012 , 02:12 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Calsetes View Post
Ah, that explains why my one character had an orange shield when I logged in since coming back last week. I thought I had gone crazy or something.

Can artificers make filled or empty offhand generators and focii? And any idea where I would find the schematics? Sorry to wander off-topic a bit, but this is news to me.
I'm pretty sure they can and I'm sure there is, but I'm not 100% on that. Can't confirm in-game as I'm at work.
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