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Slowpokeking
11.18.2012 , 09:42 PM | #11
I want those Korrbian big speeders and dual spec.

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Jnaathra
11.18.2012 , 09:49 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunafox View Post
They need to hold something over the freeloaders heads to entice them. If they gave more warzones, how is this going to keep you as a subscriber? You won't, cause you'll be able to do everything you want for free, so why would you pay. You would join the rank of freeloader, and the game would sink even further.
Having something to do is the most important thing for any subscriber. Having a greater variety of stuff to do is also important.

The free respecs alone are a huge reason for me to stay subbed.. When I pvp I switch specs a ton. I want to tank.. I want to heal... I want to dps.. etc etc.

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Jnaathra
11.18.2012 , 09:50 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by annabethchase View Post
Must be a joke topic because anytime the server is average to full you'll get pops every minute or so.
During primetime couple of minutes. During the mid day or early afternoon.. Nope sometimes nearly half an hour.

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oakamp
11.18.2012 , 09:50 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Adamagic View Post
I agree 100%. I would even be happy if they gave the F2P'ers unlimited wz's with reduced comms, or something to that effect. Having more people to play against makes me happy as a sub.
they wont do that,
if they want, they will make this game as B2P, just like gw2.
English is not my first language, still working on it.

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FINNT
11.18.2012 , 10:14 PM | #15
Is the system built (intelligently) so that it doesn't count "aborted" wz's?
:laser:

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JimboJankins
11.18.2012 , 10:40 PM | #16
I guess beggers can be choosers. I am not paying but I want more free stuff? Really? You cannot be serious.
Now I do think they made a mistake with how they charge for f2p. If you want to pvp and that's all you want to do you are paying 240 cartel coins. That is 960 coins in a 4 week month (1200 in 5 week month). It costs $9.99 USD for 1050 coins. so in essence you are paying $10 per month to pvp or $15 per month to subscribe. They are nickle and diming you but charging a quarter if that makes sense. $10 per month doesn't get you GB access, unify colors, cash limits, no ops, no FP's (well limited) etc. It is seriously stupid to pay for a single item. They should change it to 80 cartel coins for a week pass for pvp, ops, HMFP's, etc. This allows someone to buy what they want without paying for the fluff they care not for. This would be good customer service and might actually make someone more willing to subscribe than the way they are doing it right now.
If the OP was serious this is what they would have stated this rather than give me more for nothing.
The financial team for this game is seriously on crack the way they broke down the charges for cartel coins.
But back to the original topic. If you're not paying for something you don't deserve much and have no right to complain as the rest of us who do subscribe have to deal with you complaining in and out of game. You like GW2? GO BACK. If you're gona compare how great something is to the way this is then you obviously don't want to be here. OMG WOW was so awsome.....why did you leave? Just my 2 cents on F2P and the people complaining and not sub'ing

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Jnaathra
11.18.2012 , 10:43 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by JimboJankins View Post
I guess beggers can be choosers. I am not paying but I want more free stuff? Really? You cannot be serious.
Now I do think they made a mistake with how they charge for f2p. If you want to pvp and that's all you want to do you are paying 240 cartel coins. That is 960 coins in a 4 week month (1200 in 5 week month). It costs $9.99 USD for 1050 coins. so in essence you are paying $10 per month to pvp or $15 per month to subscribe. They are nickle and diming you but charging a quarter if that makes sense. $10 per month doesn't get you GB access, unify colors, cash limits, no ops, no FP's (well limited) etc. It is seriously stupid to pay for a single item. They should change it to 80 cartel coins for a week pass for pvp, ops, HMFP's, etc. This allows someone to buy what they want without paying for the fluff they care not for. This would be good customer service and might actually make someone more willing to subscribe than the way they are doing it right now.
If the OP was serious this is what they would have stated this rather than give me more for nothing.
The financial team for this game is seriously on crack the way they broke down the charges for cartel coins.
But back to the original topic. If you're not paying for something you don't deserve much and have no right to complain as the rest of us who do subscribe have to deal with you complaining in and out of game. You like GW2? GO BACK. If you're gona compare how great something is to the way this is then you obviously don't want to be here. OMG WOW was so awsome.....why did you leave? Think before you speak please.
-wall of text crits me for 1000000-

My point stands. I subscribe. I want more value for my money. You can give me more value by not cutting the legs out from under both Flashpoints and Warzones.

Plenty of other things that F2P can draw money from. Such as.....


$0.30 _ Minor Valor Boost
$0.50 _ Major Valor Boost
$0.90 _ Fleet Pass (single use)
$0.90 _ Quick Travel (single use)
$1.00 _ Customization Control: Display Legacy Name
$1.00 _ Customization Control: Display Titles
$1.20 _ Major Experience Boost
$1.20 _ Minor Experience Boost
$1.25 _ Unlock: 10 Galactic Trade Network Sale Slots
$1.50 _ CZ-5 Armored Assault Harness
$1.50 _ Dark Initiateís Robe
$1.50 _ MA-35 Forward Ops Chestplate
$1.50 _ Outriderís Flight Jacket
$1.50 _ Redeemerís Harness
$1.50 _ Saberistís Body Armor
$1.50 _ Street Slicerís Longcoat
$1.50 _ Wayfarerís Robe
$1.75 _ Authorization: Event Equipment Requisition
$1.75 _ Unlock: Inventory Module
$1.80 _ Black Market Cartel Pack
$1.80 _ Rancor Holo-Replica
$2.25 _ Legacy Perk: Improved Speeder Piloting II
$2.25 _ Legacy Perk: Improved Speeder Piloting III
$2.40 _ Invory Mouse Horranth
$2.40 _ Weekly Pass: Flashpoints (omit)
$2.40 _ Weekly Pass: Operations
$2.40 _ Weekly Pass: Space Missions
$2.40 _ Weekly Pass: Warzones (omit)
$2.50 _ Unlock: Additional Quickbar
$3.25 _ Authorization: Crew Member Appearence
$3.25 _ CZ-18x Avalanche Chestplate
$3.25 _ CZ-27k Stealth Ops Suit
$3.25 _ Dire Eliminatorís Chestguard
$3.25 _ Dire Overlordís Vestments
$3.25 _ Dire Taskmasterís Robe
$3.25 _ Dire Warmasterís Body Armor
$3.25 _ Emergency Responderís Overcoat
$3.25 _ Guard Captainís Chestplate
$3.25 _ Honored Adeptís Shroud
$3.25 _ Honored Championís Robe
$3.25 _ Honored Masterís Vestments
$3.25 _ Honored Saberistís Harness
$3.25 _ MA-52 Med-Tech Chestplate
$3.25 _ MA-53 Overwatch Chestplate
$3.50 _ Customization Control: Hide Head Slot
$3.50 _ Customization Control: Unify Colors
$3.50 _ Garmorrean Axe
$3.50 _ Garmorrean Axe
$3.50 _ Legacy Unlock: Chiss
$3.50 _ Legacy Unlock: Cyborg
$3.50 _ Legacy Unlock: Mirialan
$3.50 _ Legacy Unlock: Sith Pureblood
$3.50 _ Legacy Unlock:Miraluka
$3.50 _ Legacy Unlock:Rattataki
$3.50 _ Legacy Unlock:Twiílek
$3.50 _ Legacy Unlock:Zabrak
$3.60 _ Crime Lordís Cartel Pack
$4.75 _ Expand your inventory an additional 10 slots.
$4.75 _ Unlock: Additional Cargo Bay
$4.75 _ Unlock: Cargo Hold Access
$4.80 _ 5-Pack: Major Experience Boost
$6.00 _ Access Authorization: Section X
$6.00 _ Unlock: Guild Bank Access
$7.20 _ Longspur Sportster
$9.00 _ Advanced Orange-Yellow Eviscerating Crystal
$9.00 _ Advanced Orange-Yellow Hawkeye Crystal
$9.00 _ Advanced Orange-Yellow Indestructible Crystal
$9.00 _ Advanced Orange-Yellow War Heroís Crystal
$12.00 _ Armor set
$12.00 _ Authorization: Artifact Equipment
$12.00 _ CZ-13k Guerrilla Armor set
$12.00 _ Destroyerís Armor set
$12.00 _ MA-44 Combat Armor set
$12.00 _ Noble Commanderís Armor set
$12.00 _ nvestigatorís Armor set
$12.00 _ Outlawís Armor set
$12.00 _ Pathfinderís Armor set
$12.00 _ X-3 Techmasterís Armor Set
$14.40 _ Carbonite Chamber

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JimboJankins
11.18.2012 , 10:57 PM | #18
Quote:
My point stands. I subscribe. I want more value for my money. You can give me more value by not cutting the legs out from under both Flashpoints and Warzones.
I understand you subscribe as you have previously stated. My statement, "give me more for nothing" was directed at the people who do not subscribe (the people you are standing up for). There is no reason to give them more for nothing.

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Plenty of other things that F2P can draw money from.
As I said if you (generally speaking) want to just do pvp you are not really looking for money but rather the experience of pvp.

Bottom line is if someone is serious about playing this game they will pay for a subscription. The stats are simple. Serious gamers pay. I would rather wait longer for a good pvp team then insta que for a fast loss from f2p players who are not serious about the game. The guy who said lower their ranked coms doesn't help his own point either. Gear them up slower but let them play in recruit gear longer? That will really hurt the pvp scene.

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Jnaathra
11.18.2012 , 11:01 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by JimboJankins View Post
I understand you subscribe as you have previously stated. My statement, "give me more for nothing" was directed at the people who do not subscribe (the people you are standing up for). There is no reason to give them more for nothing.


As I said if you (generally speaking) want to just do pvp you are not really looking for money but rather the experience of pvp.

Bottom line is if someone is serious about playing this game they will pay for a subscription. The stats are simple. Serious gamers pay. I would rather wait longer for a good pvp team then insta que for a fast loss from f2p players who are not serious about the game. The guy who said lower their ranked coms doesn't help his own point either. Gear them up slower but let them play in recruit gear longer? That will really hurt the pvp scene.
Not everyone runs around with a premade day and night. Teams are fine.. but having a mentality that other players are not serious when alone is a huge mistake. This is not some elite pvp scene anyways...

"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more subscribers will slip through your fingers."

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terrorfistjab
11.18.2012 , 11:08 PM | #20
Personally I think a better system would have been to let the ftp players have a week trial were they have unlimited access to warzones, then after that week is up they have to do a one time purchase for each warzone. Once it is unlocked they can play it as much or as little as they liked. You could even limit it to individual characters only instead of account wide if it will keep the subs from crying and moaning.

This way FTP players can choose what warzones they want and don't want, and they are still paying for access to that content. And it you know helps accomplish what the reasoning was for a ftp model to begin with; getting players to help populate pvp and pve.