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We all just want to see the game succeed... right?

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We all just want to see the game succeed... right?

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Unojc
11.14.2012 , 08:54 PM | #51
Most people when they play a game and dont like it they simply stop playing and forget about the game. Its been a year and these same people are continuing to ***** and moan. Why? Because ultimately they want the game to succeed and are bitterly hoping it turns around for them. That is their inner secret they try to mask. Try as they must they will never fully hide it.
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simplius
11.14.2012 , 08:57 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Gomla View Post
I do want the game to do well even if I don't hang around much.

Although my wife is setting up a free account whenever the servers come back up so if she sticks around here I may just do so myself.

Nothing against the game why I only play for a few weeks here and there my main love is modding. I spend most of my time making mods for other games and come here and the MMO's I played before for a break from that.

But if this game does flop then it's less likely we'll see another major MMO from a big name developer (Elder Scrolls aside).

The Warhammer 40k one i've been waiting for since the 90's has been turned into a single player so my hopes are dashed on that. This is the last bastion of hope.
so u think blizzard will drop titan, because of this?,,will roberts drop star citizen?

no,,the edsel didnt end car industry,,nor ford,,but i hope other devs have learned from this

BW biggest mistake: they should NEVER have chosen SW as their first mmo,,they should have started with a

smaller title, to learn the basics of mmos, and then built on that

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thaawn
11.14.2012 , 09:02 PM | #53
Wrong!!!!


I wanna be able to say "I told you so" to. . .to. . .

. . .Somebody, I don't know. . .maybe myself. . .
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simplius
11.14.2012 , 09:03 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by grombrinda View Post
Most people do want to see it succeed , after all it is Star Wars ,because if it wasn't ..How many of you would still be around?

I personally feel that they went in the wrong direction for this game, should've been a console game with co-op online play from the get go. Instead they tried to make a single player online game and call it an mmo, and it failed on them.
yea it feels more like dragon age, than a real mmo

throw out the mmo parts, add save functions and more customization,,they would have had the BEST

RPG on the market

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KnighteStar
11.14.2012 , 09:07 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Unojc View Post
Most people when they play a game and dont like it they simply stop playing and forget about the game. Its been a year and these same people are continuing to ***** and moan. Why? Because ultimately they want the game to succeed and are bitterly hoping it turns around for them. That is their inner secret they try to mask. Try as they must they will never fully hide it.
Unless you look on the WoW forums. "Why SWTOR sucks and why we play the better game!!!" "They're going F2P! Ha! Losers! Must be failing!" They are just the louder voices those that left the game flock to and those that didn't HATE SWTOR when they left aren't as loud as those that do.
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Costello
11.14.2012 , 09:18 PM | #56
People that post generally want to see the game succeed. Cause there are plenty of places you can post on the forums that don't charge 15 bucks a month if all you want to do is argue and flame people. Many without mods allowing you to call them also sorts of names or use religion and politics to really inflame the argument.

Now if the game had increased its subs figures or stayed even few people would have grounds to say much. Still would of course but pretty much any negative argument (even if factual) would be able to be rebuffed by simply pointing to the 1.5 million players and the game being a massive sucess.

But when the game is hemeraging players, guilds are crumbling and people are off to play other mmo's or back to one with panders or just sitting waiting for elder scrolls or whatever to come out then you have to ask why. When the business model of the game goes from we feel we can charge a subscription because... to we are excited to announce free to play..... you have to ask why.

Then given the development time it takes to implament features into the game you also have to make the devs aware of what isn't working with enough time if they chose to do something about it. Waiting till you are bored witless by the game and then saying oh you need more end game is a little late. At least in the sence of them keeping you as a subscriber while you wait the months for them to come up with more end game content. So it may appear to the devs that people are saying things prematurely, that it isn't shown by their metrics. But players can see where things are going and if things don't change it will become a serious issue.

So yes people want it to succeed. They may even sound horribly negative for people still subscribing. But then if nothing changed in a few weeks or months (or when the next big MMO comes out) they will just leave. They have tried to explain the problem nothing is done so they move on.

Whether BW want the game to suceed as much I'm not so sure. With free to play being the answer I think it offers a different market to go after. Rather than the demanding subs paying gamer its the more causal gamer who will spend is 15 or 20 bucks in the cash shop. Play for a while get bored and move on. But hopefully there will be someone else to take their place and then you don't need end game content cause they are just playing through the first 50 levels and then moving on.

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kirorx
11.14.2012 , 09:18 PM | #57
You are correct in that people want this game to succeed.

During the development this game was hyped to be the next great thing (very similar to the current patch for tommorrow), the videos were insanely awesome.

While the storylines are interesting and the gameplay IMO is pretty fun (i feel like a bounty hunter, right out the gate). The game took some obvious short cuts.

The first was the species options, just recolored faces. The problem is that has continued on to gear as well. The dreadguard is a new color black hole gear.

Gear has been a massive issue as well, not to mention the jedi outfit we all want is the one at the character creation screen for jedi knight, yet that is not available in game and we have no reason why.

No chat bubbles and a year has gone by and still my character cant sit a chair.

I could go on, but I think the point has been made.

The over all game is great, but its still missing a great deal of little things, small life conviences would go along way for SWTOR.

No matter what people argue about, they are here because they like this game just some people are annoyed because they cant toggle off their hood.
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fungihoujo
11.14.2012 , 09:34 PM | #58
Ya, we want to see it succeed.

But- BW doesn't listen to constructive feedback (they did listen though to people whining about how amazing mercs and sorcs were pre-1.2, which led to a huge nerf and losing almost all of the two biggest class's playerbases- and these whines included people who hated how sorcs could bubble, one shot them, then stealth to get away- best feedback ever).

BW doesn't make good decisions either, ever. So, what do we have to hope for really? That BW is, after losing all the financial backing, their head honchos and most of their staff- is going to suddenly get a second wind? Even the f2p model looks more like a 'well, we gotta do it cuz other mmos that have failed do it' than what it should be, a last ditch effort to save the game.

I want to see the game do well, but when BW either doesn't or is simply atrociously incompetent- it feels like I'm betting on a horse that I happen to know intends to throw the race.

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KnighteStar
11.14.2012 , 09:37 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by fungihoujo View Post
Ya, we want to see it succeed.

But- BW doesn't listen to constructive feedback (they did listen though to people whining about how amazing mercs and sorcs were pre-1.2, which led to a huge nerf and losing almost all of the two biggest class's playerbases- and these whines included people who hated how sorcs could bubble, one shot them, then stealth to get away- best feedback ever).

BW doesn't make good decisions either, ever. So, what do we have to hope for really? That BW is, after losing all the financial backing, their head honchos and most of their staff- is going to suddenly get a second wind? Even the f2p model looks more like a 'well, we gotta do it cuz other mmos that have failed do it' than what it should be, a last ditch effort to save the game.

I want to see the game do well, but when BW either doesn't or is simply atrociously incompetent- it feels like I'm betting on a horse that I happen to know intends to throw the race.
And, see, that's the thing. SWTOR is at #2 now. It had no reason to go free to play as its fine where it is. Sure, bring in new players. But one thing WoW does better than SWTOR is advertisement. SWTOR needs to let its audience know its out there.
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MidichIorian
11.14.2012 , 09:45 PM | #60
I complain because I care and I wouldnt care if I didnt have any intentions of playing this game, I would simply move on instead.

So yeah, atleast for me you're spot on OP.