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Day 1 of F2P Predictions


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Urael
11.14.2012 , 02:23 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
and technically, f2p is coming soon, so its false advertising as it is presumed that everything on the advert for the advent of f2p on the f2p page is part of the coming soon aka the same day as f2p.
Not to defend EAware ... but, it depends on how you define a nebulous "concept" like Soon!!(). I am sure they would use the it depends on the definition if "is" defense.

So basically it's not false advertising since nothing was promised and soon is nebulous.

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Shingara
11.14.2012 , 02:25 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
Not to defend EAware ... but, it depends on how you define a nebulous "concept" like Soon!!(). I am sure they would use the it depends on the definition if "is" defense.

So basically it's not false advertising since nothing was promised and soon is nebulous.
Fact, free 2 play coming soon.
Fact, goto this page to see whats coming with F2p
Fact, that page is covered with things coming with F2p, infact it is the look here this is everything we have on f2p page.
Fact, they said its coming tommorrow
Fact, they have not mentioned once those 2 things arnt coming but anyone who looks at the page assumes everything on the advertisment for f2p that those things are here tommorrow.
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Urael
11.14.2012 , 02:41 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
Fact, free 2 play coming soon.
Fact, goto this page to see whats coming with F2p
Fact, that page is covered with things coming with F2p, infact it is the look here this is everything we have on f2p page.
Fact, they said its coming tommorrow
Fac,t they have not mentioned once those 2 things arnt coming but anyone who looks at the page assumes everything on the advertisment for f2p that those things are here tommorrow.
First don't let your HATE cloud your REASON. While it is true that it CAN be read as you stated but, the definition of the word soon as being nebulous there is enough wiggle room for them LEGALLY (if there were such a need) to be in the clear not delivering those two features you mentioned at the same time as F2P because they were not all promised at the same time as F2P they were just mentioned that they would be Soon!!().

You CHOOSE to read it that way. That is not the only way it can be interpretted. Again, don't let YOUR HATE get in the way of REASON (which many Many MANY on these forums do all the time).

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Shingara
11.14.2012 , 02:43 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
First don't let your HATE cloud your REASON. While it is true that it CAN be read as you stated by the definition of the word soon as being nebulous there is enough wiggle room for them LEGALLY (if there were such a need) to be in the clear not delivering those two features you mentioned at the same time as F2P because they were not all promised at the same time as F2P they were just mentioned that they would be Soon!!().

You CHOOSE to read it that way. That is not the only way it can be interpretted. Again, don't let YOUR HATE get in the way of REASON (which many Many MANY on these forums do all the time).
What hate, i love swtor, i chose to look at it how it is, no squirming out of it, that is the designated f2p page and it is what it is, section x, ancient hypergates, new space missions, HK, earn coins and play for free with restrictions, show me where it shows anything different.

if you had not touched swtor for 6 months, just looked at the f2p page and have not read the forums or were a new player, not read the forums and saw a new f2p game would you assume things advertised on the f2p page would not be with f2p ??

And if its not part of it why is not part of future content, its not its stated on the f2p page, thats the top and bottom of it. And the topic was predict tommorrow, i have with people will wonder where those 2 things are.
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Eillack
11.14.2012 , 02:51 PM | #35
Prepare yourself, SW:TOR F2P is coming!
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Urael
11.14.2012 , 02:57 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Eillack View Post
Prepare yourself, SW:TOR F2P is coming!
Don't you mean brace for impact?

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GnatB
11.14.2012 , 03:08 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
And if its not part of it why is not part of future content, its not its stated on the f2p page, thats the top and bottom of it. And the topic was predict tommorrow, i have with people will wonder where those 2 things are.
*shrug*

Honestly, just clicking the link, (without paying much attention to the URL, or knowing what you click on to get there) The page itself just reads like a "here's why you should start playing, because all this stuff is coming soon". Not neccessarily at the same time, and one of which items merely happens to be the F2P stuff.

Heck, of the features, only 2 really have anything to do with F2P. At least 2 of them are definitely NOT part of F2P, as I believe you have to subscribe/Pay to get Section X.

that being said, after looking through the main website menu, and seeing what you DO click to get there (text saying 1 day to free-to-play, find out more button that puts you there)

Yeah, misleading. Context IS important. Some webdesigner probably combined pages and/or took a shortcut of linking to an existing page.

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Ansalem
11.14.2012 , 03:21 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by LodSock View Post
I predict that once the Cartel Market goes live, someone will find an exploit to purchase multiple items with just 1 click or whatever, and that exploit will spread, and there will be rampant abuse. The servers will shut down to patch. And no one will be penalized.

Any other predictions? Smooth launch maybe? HA!
gonna laugh if there is a sell back buy back option too that can be exploited :P Wonder if anyone tested CC items with selling and buy back.
I bet there are going to be many many many f2p ghost accounts made specifically for trolling. I can hardly wait for the f2p folks to do their 1 general chat msg every 20s and have it insulting every race, creed, and nationality as well as the sexuality of half the players on the server. Since it seems to be taking CSRs anywhere between 2 days and a week to respond to anything this should make for a fun first week. One can only hope that BW actually starts policing the general chat channels.

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_Zhatan_
11.14.2012 , 03:46 PM | #39
A) 1 month of queues for the people coming back to claim his cartel coins...

B) slowly lost of interest as the game is in the same state as february 2012.

C) About 10% population increase from real F2P tryers.

D) December : Release of level cap to retain the influx of come backers.

E) 250k subscribers and about 400k players at May 2013

F) 150k players and 4 servers at November 2013.
SWG----------------- 8 years played, 7 active accounts at June 2011.
SWTOR------------- 6 months played. BACK ONLY FOR PATCHS .

BW...Something is failing here, don't you think?

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tzagheru
11.14.2012 , 06:04 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by _Zhatan_ View Post
A) 1 month of queues for the people coming back to claim his cartel coins...

B) slowly lost of interest as the game is in the same state as february 2012.

C) About 10% population increase from real F2P tryers.

D) December : Release of level cap to retain the influx of come backers.

E) 250k subscribers and about 400k players at May 2013

F) 150k players and 4 servers at November 2013.
dead game brought to you by EAware.