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Prequel's Anakin


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Slowpokeking
10.30.2012 , 01:28 PM | #21
I think Plagueis would let Anakin learn his philosophy and the Dark Side of the Force, slowly turn him into a real Sith Lord like himself and Palpatine, then let him kill Padme not with anger, but with reason.

Or he could keep Padme alive and turn her into a supporter of the Empire, why not? She's senator.

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Aurbere
10.30.2012 , 02:04 PM | #22
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But if Plagueis was there, even death could be conquered.

Plagueis: "You killed her in your anger."

Anakin: "NOOOO!!!!!"

Plagueis: "Don't worry, I can revive her"
I don't think Plagueis would revive her. A Sith must sacrifice that which makes them weak. If Padme survived, she could have brought him back to the Light. That would not have turned out too well for Plagueis.
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"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Slurmez
10.30.2012 , 04:14 PM | #23
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It was down to a combination of bad writing and acting. Watch the Clone Wars cartoon, Anakin is much better written and has a voice actor that actually can voice act so he's a lot more likeable in it then he was in the PT films.
This, in the original movies Anakin was set up to be a Han Solo-esque character who took a wrong turn, we got a whiney baby whos "wiping out the jedi" involved chopping up babies in the creche, thats not bada**, its just pure a**.

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Slowpokeking
10.30.2012 , 04:16 PM | #24
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I don't think Plagueis would revive her. A Sith must sacrifice that which makes them weak. If Padme survived, she could have brought him back to the Light. That would not have turned out too well for Plagueis.
Padme could be turned as well, before someone like Plagueis and Sidious.

Also remember she failed in the conversation, Anakin already accepted the Sith' way and with Plagueis' guidance he would become a real Sith.

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Aurbere
10.30.2012 , 04:18 PM | #25
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Padme could be turned as well, before someone like Plagueis and Sidious.
It is possible, but Padme was very independent. I don't know. We are speculating here, of course. Padme would have to be told something absolutely mind-blowing in order to be turned.
Added Chapter 29 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Slowpokeking
10.30.2012 , 04:22 PM | #26
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It is possible, but Padme was very independent. I don't know. We are speculating here, of course. Padme would have to be told something absolutely mind-blowing in order to be turned.
Padme already failed to convince Anakin in RotS, especially the novel version.

Well Padme did agree dictatorship could be good sometimes like she did as the queen in EP I, so it's entirely possible to let her accept the idea like Count Dooku.

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Aurbere
10.30.2012 , 04:24 PM | #27
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Padme already failed to convince Anakin in RotS, especially the novel version.

Well Padme did agree dictatorship could be good sometimes like she did as the queen in EP I, so it's entirely possible to let her accept the idea like Count Dooku.
It is possible, but she would eventually see the Empire for what it really is and turn against it. Don't know for sure though.

She wouldn't even be a Senator in the Empire because the Emperor dissolved the Senate.

Like I said, this is merely conjecture as we don't know what Padme would do or what Plagueis/Sidious would do.
Added Chapter 29 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Slowpokeking
10.30.2012 , 04:32 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
It is possible, but she would eventually see the Empire for what it really is and turn against it. Don't know for sure though.

She wouldn't even be a Senator in the Empire because the Emperor dissolved the Senate.

Like I said, this is merely conjecture as we don't know what Padme would do or what Plagueis/Sidious would do.
The Empire dissolved the Senate years later. At that time, Anakin could already be turned into a real Sith.

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Aurbere
10.30.2012 , 04:35 PM | #29
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The Empire dissolved the Senate years later. At that time, Anakin could already be turned into a real Sith.
What do you mean by real Sith? Wasn't Vader a real Sith?
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"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Slowpokeking
10.30.2012 , 04:39 PM | #30
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What do you mean by real Sith? Wasn't Vader a real Sith?
Something like Plagueis, Palpatine and Dooku, they were cold and dark but control their emotion well.

No, there is still good in Vader and he still regret to kill Padme.