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HK-51 Quest & its PVP requirement.

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HK-51 Quest & its PVP requirement.

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Miggzy
10.24.2012 , 11:54 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Stenrik View Post
(I'm guessing this is a way of plugging the outlaw's den to the people who either ignored it or didn't know it existed. I think it's pretty clear that they expected everyone to be using it at launch. The whole HK thing seems like an attempt to make people more well-rounded players.)
They killed the den a long time ago and even after adding a quick travel ability to it in 1.2, they still gave no incentive to go there which totally sucks.

The pvp aspect to this quest is biggrins!
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Soluss
10.25.2012 , 12:23 AM | #12
Its not that big a deal. Most PVE servers will probably ignore each other for the most part. Kind of like original Illum when noone pvped they just traded killing the vehicles. If its too tough for you then log in during off peak hours and take 10 minutes to go get it.
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Weaksauce
10.25.2012 , 12:44 AM | #13
I don't think a HK unit would follow anyone too scared to enter a no man's land. I think something with the words "squishy" and "meatbag" would be spoken before a few blaster bolts fired.

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T_Kay
10.25.2012 , 01:01 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Cakellene View Post
I won't be doing quest if it goes live as is.
Exactly. Never had the desire to be other ... erm ... people's "content" and if that means no HK for me ...

*grrr* where are these greedy suits when you need them? Put this freaking droid in the cartel shop!! I'd pay the equivalent of two months subscription to get this companion if i can avoid the l33t-groupers and pvp- ...erm ... -people!

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WarbNull
10.25.2012 , 01:08 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by darh_halo View Post
C'mon OP have some flavor in your gaming life, after all you are going to get most deadliest assassin in the galaxy and one of requirements is to get assassinated first lawl
That is actually an interesting thought. Assassination as requirement. It has a nice ring to it.

I do have flavor in my gaming life though. Remember my last paragraph says that I do PVP from time to time.



I just want to reiterate to everyone. My opinion on this is just based around having PVP as part of the Requirement for obtaining Companions. Even if it is just a possibility of a PVP Situation as a Requirement. Removing that one thing makes it a lot more appealing to more types of players. I just think it would be better all around to remove that one requirement. It just seems to me like a bad move to have it in a PVP Zone for something that is so widely wanted.

I can understand them wanting to make the Outlaw's Den more desirable, but they can do that in other ways other than using a Companion, something that is mostly used in PVE to begin with. For instance, they could just use really good gear that is for PVP as a better incentive for players to visit the Outlaw's Den. It does not even have to be just PVP gear. Any really good Gear would be better Incentive than a Companion. Heck they could have the more Top end Droid Parts drop as loot there. Say some Droid parts that are only for the HK-51. That would be better incentive than having the actual Requirements for Companions being there.

I do not want people to get the wrong impression of me. It is not that I do not like PVP, as I do like PVP. I am also not scared of PVP or getting killed by other players. After all I have PVP'ed from time to time. In fact I was in the Outlaw's Den the other day. I went through there to get that Datacron. It just seems like a bad idea to me to have something that is widely wanted by all types of Players, PVP and NON-PVP alike, have a requirement that makes one type of player be placed in a situation for something they do not really like to do. in this case PVP.

It is just how I feel.

It is good to see all of you post your views on this though. Even if we all do not agree. It makes for a better community and game if we all express our opinions freely. I hope to see more opinions on this.
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Soluss
10.25.2012 , 02:26 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Cakellene View Post
I won't be doing quest if it goes live as is.
No HK for you then
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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Efour
10.25.2012 , 02:43 AM | #17
looking forward to me and my mate ganking people for a few days while they patch this out over all the crying.

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well
10.25.2012 , 02:50 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Efour View Post
looking forward to me and my mate ganking people for a few days while they patch this out over all the crying.
Level ones won't be able to go there so you might have a tough time.Then you will be crying because too many high levels were doing it.Like 17 and 18 levels.

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BogyOne
10.25.2012 , 02:55 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by ShatteredVision View Post
You mean like the way they make pvpers PvE to get him?
Good point and I say it as PvE player. My friend playing on PvP server was astonished how helpful and cooperative people were during Chevin event.

PvP or PvE do not determine being punk or bully, so do not expect worst from others. And when you group to go to FFA PvP and fight ensues - you may actually enjoy it in the end

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Kalfear
10.25.2012 , 04:18 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Henu View Post
Its not like your in there for long really... there are 3 venders and 2 of them are so easy to get too. you can walk in and walk out before anyone see's you.. and believe me, no one really goes into outlaws den these days...
I got to say based on 21+ years of pvp in MMORPGs

Outlaws Den will be packed with greifer pk guilds the very day this goes live and anyone that doesnt accept that is lieing to themselves.

Its designs liek this PKers LIVE FOR

Now granted most of said PKers would prefer it be level 10s coming in as they are not about good fights and challenges. They simply want to ruin others enjoyment.

Personally will not matter to me as I already know what this will be like so will gather large group to go at once to protect each other.

But yeah, its a really lame design by EA and breaks yet another promise made by BW and EA before this game launched (was in the now gone FAQ but following what it said)

Question: Do I have to pvp or will I be able to play the game with out being forced into PVP
Answer : We do not beleive in forcing any play style on any players and will never force a player to partake in pvp for pve content

Thats a rough paraphrase but thats basically what it said

HK is clearly a PVE content add on and yet peopel are being forced to pvp to get this pve content!

Again, doesnt effect me in the least but lets not fool ourselves on this

This is yet another broken guarentee/promise by EA regarding TOR.

As for other poster QQing he cant get HK via PVP only.
Yeah, HK really going to help you in Warzones...oh wait no hes not
well he will help in Ilum...oh wait nope again

Ill never understand this desire to turn PVP into PVE by some people!
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