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Why are Zabrak colors different for Empire and Rebpulic?

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Why are Zabrak colors different for Empire and Rebpulic?

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ZioGio
12.19.2011 , 02:25 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Digital-N-Plus View Post
I play a Zabrak Trooper because I really liked the species as a whole.

What I'm wondering is how they put on helmets. That's gotta hurt! Or at least feel uncomfortable.
Shaped cut-outs in the foam padding.

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FlashbackJon
12.19.2011 , 02:44 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by ZioGio View Post
Bioware justifies it in-game during character creation. When you select the Zabrak species, it states that "Zabrak's have two visually different cultural groups split almost perfectly between Republic and Imperial space."
That doesn't explain the stubby horns!

Wait, it kind of does.
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ToEasy
12.19.2011 , 02:46 PM | #13
The Zabrak that are sith have those black tatoos because they are sith tatoos. That is why the republic ones don't have that.
"Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. We fight for justice because justice is the fundamental bedrock of civilization: an unjust civilization is built upon sand. It does not long survive a storm." - Mace Windu

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DuchessOfDork
12.19.2011 , 02:51 PM | #14
From what I've read, Zabrak tattoos are given to them after their rites of passage. Their tattoos are either chosen by their parents, or they're chosen by the kid with their parents. So depending on where/how the kid is raised, that's the type of tattoos they've got. The tattoos have meanings.

Therefore, if you've got Imperial Zabraks and Republic Zabraks and their culture is different, they're gonna have different symbols and different styles. A Republic Zabrak's tattoos might be meant to inspire trust while an Imperial's tattoos might be meant to inspire fear, especially if he or she is raised to become Sith.

But remember, not all Imperial Zabraks are Sith. So they might not have Sith tattoos, just Imperial Zabrak tattoos.

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Mantang
12.19.2011 , 02:51 PM | #15
The whole tons of races look like humans except for the head irks me in general. We're supposed to believe that on each of the respective home planets of these species that their evolution was directed by occurrences that lead to a perfectly human looking body (same number of digits, proportions, etc.) but something happened in their environment that made everything from the neck up (or in Zabrak case the forehead up) be radically different..... Sure there are some races that have a radically different body in the Star Wars universe but you don't see multiple races with say a body like a hutt but with tentacles for hair.

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MarcusBekker
12.19.2011 , 03:10 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Mantang View Post
The whole tons of races look like humans except for the head irks me in general. We're supposed to believe that on each of the respective home planets of these species that their evolution was directed by occurrences that lead to a perfectly human looking body (same number of digits, proportions, etc.) but something happened in their environment that made everything from the neck up (or in Zabrak case the forehead up) be radically different..... Sure there are some races that have a radically different body in the Star Wars universe but you don't see multiple races with say a body like a hutt but with tentacles for hair.
Actually thats not necessarily true at least about the Zabrak. Zabrak may look like humans on the out side but have internally different systems including a second heart. I'm not entirely sure about some of the others such as twi'leks though i know their lekku are more than just decorative danglies. As far as why the Miraluka look so much like human's is according to the lore, they were human at one point and because of their colony being where it was for so long and their isolation they lost the ability to see through evolution basically. Wookieepedia doesn't have enough information on it about the origins of the Mirialans for me to say anything about them. Sith pure blood on the other hand are technically just Sith/human hybrids that have enough of the original Sith dna in them to present with physical characteristics that show their heritage so inreality more or less aren't even a distinct species. Thats just a couple examples, Rattatki are listed as a near-human species as well, which (im not sure on their terminology with the phrase) may or may not mean that at once point were true humans as well, once again there isn't enough information on their history and origins.

What you do have to remember with the Star wars universe is that there is plenty of history that has not been talked about or even written up yet that could explain the origin of many of the species of the galaxy. For those of you that probably don't read the books, the Rakata aren't even the only species that have been come up with that have transplanted other species to planets that they didn't come from. The entire Corellian system was artificially created by an extremely technologically advanced species that no one in the Star Wars corporation has even begun to explain or flesh out with information. So in responce to the person's post that I have copied, it may well be that in the beginning these species were all the same thing till they were transplanted around the far reaches of space and then were subject to changes in morphology brought on by the environments that they lived in for millenia upon millenia.

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FlashbackJon
12.19.2011 , 04:21 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Mantang View Post
The whole tons of races look like humans except for the head irks me in general. We're supposed to believe that on each of the respective home planets of these species that their evolution was directed by occurrences that lead to a perfectly human looking body (same number of digits, proportions, etc.) but something happened in their environment that made everything from the neck up (or in Zabrak case the forehead up) be radically different..... Sure there are some races that have a radically different body in the Star Wars universe but you don't see multiple races with say a body like a hutt but with tentacles for hair.
That's because they are Near-Humans: almost all are evolved from a human ancestor, adapted to some random condition of their planet.

It's silly, but that's what happens when you base an entire mythos on a movie from the 1970's.

Alternatively, consider convergent evolution, the perfect handwavium for explaining humanoid aliens.
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Siriel
12.19.2011 , 10:36 PM | #18
First, about skin color : Zabrak subspecies, in the Star Wars universe, have different skin tones which included peachy white, pure white, yellow, red, tan, brown and black (Wookiepedia).

All Zabrak, Light or Dark, should be allowed these skin colors. A Light Jedi of the Zabrak race could be black (literally).

Red, though, would create confusion with the Pure Sith, but technically a Zabrak could be red. Mind you, as we are playing in the old galaxy, they could decide that red Zabraks originated from some who became too close to Siths (?). Otherwise said, way back then, maybe the only red Zabraks are those born under Sith control.

Second, tattoos : Zabrak can all have wicked looking tattoos in Star Wars (have not checked in SWTOR), but some tattoos in SWTOR, as mentioned, are the Sith ones (fair enough).


Anyhow, there are so many species missing for characters.

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NapFloridian
12.20.2011 , 03:47 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Digital-N-Plus View Post
I play a Zabrak Trooper because I really liked the species as a whole.

What I'm wondering is how they put on helmets. That's gotta hurt! Or at least feel uncomfortable.
LMAO that was great.... nice thinking

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CoruscantSunset
12.20.2011 , 01:11 PM | #20
The thing about all the popular aliens looking human is easily explainable, actually. Star Wars is made up and made to appeal to us, an audience comprised mainly of humans. Obviously humans naturally tend to find humanoids more visually appealing. There are tons of species in the Star Wars universe that are weird looking, but the most popular ones are the most popular at least in part because they do resemble us.

Also, as someone else said, the entire universe is based off a sci-fi movie from the 70s where all the main characters had to be played by human beings.