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quicker to level as dps or healer?

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quicker to level as dps or healer?

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Nikkons
03.15.2012 , 01:33 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by futuredami View Post
pondering which will make for a smoother trip to 50...

on one hand lightning seems to have some groovy aoe which always means speed killing, but apparently a well armored tank companion and heal spec makes you immortal.

how was your leveling as a healer, anyone who has tried it?
Personally I started out as a dps/madness for lightning spam but once i started to hit boss fights (zash) i switch to healer as it makes boss fights pretty much cake and just kept going like that with khem tanking (SI).


Even though its a bit slower just mindless killing groups of enemies, cause most of your damage is from your companion but you can do just fine being semi-afk while throwing in some heals/bubble. Also its great for soloing 2+/4 instances with a geared up companion as most other classes can't even think about doing that. and you can easily kill any of the elite mobs around the world with very little trouble.


You can help speed things up by spamming your aoe when fighting a group of enemies as half will get stunned over and over, reducing their damage to minimal. and there is hardly any down time as you can just dismiss your companion/mount then unmount/resummon and they are back at full hp and you don't come close to running out of force unless its a long boss fight.

But for me, being a healer from 20-50, took me 5 days in-game time to reach it... don't really know if that is good or not and wasn't questing 100% of the time and actually talked with ppl

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Delekii
03.15.2012 , 09:57 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken View Post
This has not been my experience at all. I always level double dps because my dps companion actually puts out ~75% or so of my own, which is quite impressive. That is why levelling as a healer or with a healer companion is always slower than with a dps character/companion.
Unless you never rest, it's not. Also, there is absolutely no way that the companion is doing 75% of your dps, especially if you are aoeing a lot, which you should be. There are no dps charts to look either way, but look at the damage numbers of their abilities and their cooldowns, and you will see that they are severely lower than your own even with up to date gear.

Healing companions still do some damage, but they also entirely mitigate downtime between mobs.

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hadoken
03.15.2012 , 10:00 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Delekii View Post
Unless you never rest, it's not. Also, there is absolutely no way that the companion is doing 75% of your dps, especially if you are aoeing a lot, which you should be. There are no dps charts to look either way, but look at the damage numbers of their abilities and their cooldowns, and you will see that they are severely lower than your own even with up to date gear.

Healing companions still do some damage, but they also entirely mitigate downtime between mobs.
You can eyeball it by sticking them on a strong while you take another strong, etc. They absolutely do far more than a healer, and as I said with the reset trick the downtime is minimal anyway. I have 5 50s, and my dps/dps combos went far far faster than any healer+ combo.

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Delekii
03.16.2012 , 12:18 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken View Post
You can eyeball it
Yay, you can safely be ignored.


I have 5 50s too; using a healer companion is as fast, and far more safe, when compared with using a dps companion.

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hadoken
03.16.2012 , 06:39 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Delekii View Post
Yay, you can safely be ignored.


I have 5 50s too; using a healer companion is as fast, and far more safe, when compared with using a dps companion.
Wait, you have problems levelling without a healer?

I think I see the problem here.

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Delekii
03.16.2012 , 07:08 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken View Post
Wait, you have problems levelling without a healer?

I think I see the problem here.
No, I have limitations leveling without a healer that I don't have leveling with one. Trying to say otherwise is flat out lying, lol. You can pull more, and you can pull faster, with a healer npc rather than a DPS npc. Your aoe capabilities on most classes drastically outweigh any dps companion, and AoE efficiency drastically outweighs single target for practically every ac. It's not a difficult concept.

There are a few ACs that can safely use a dps companion and still aoe like crazy, mostly because of their ridiculous defensive capabilities in dps specs; sorcerer/sages, for example, can live behind the relative safety of their bubble which can be cast proactively. The vast majority lose efficiency by having to heal post combat, especially melee classes who cannot effectively burn melee enemies before being hit.

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Canis_Anubis
03.16.2012 , 07:53 PM | #17
Really, so much of your XP comes from missions, and so much of your time goes into traveling, it just doesn't matter. Pick the play-style you enjoy and get out there.

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futuredami
03.17.2012 , 03:18 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Canis_Anubis View Post
Really, so much of your XP comes from missions, and so much of your time goes into traveling, it just doesn't matter. Pick the play-style you enjoy and get out there.
I feel you, its just I really don't know -what- I enjoy. Caster archetypes are new to me, I always play a tank type in MMOs but I greatly disliked Jug and heard Sin has similar ability bloat.

I rather arbitrarily chose madness to get the force lightning battery going, I don't like the idea of a non renewable resource. So as soon as I can get an infinite loop of force I will be happy. I was thinking of hybrid healing after that, but with the way people are freaking out over the patch notes it might not be worth even trying to heal.
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Game-Hermit
03.17.2012 , 07:09 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by futuredami View Post
So they are essentially tepid dps companions with a taunt? In theory would it be better to use a dps companion and just stay on them for heals?
Yes, for anything but a healer. If you're a healer and keep them well geared they can actually be useful if only for their agro skills. It's kind of hard to heal yourself if you're getting beat on after all. Especially for a commando since we can't self-target hammer shot. My DPS also drops to like half of normal when I have agro. Since I'm not over 40 yet (still 30's) I don't have any points for the other tree so I don't have the -70% pushback for attacks yet. Just because they're (barely) viable for one role doesn't mean they aren't broken though. Tank companions badly need a buff. The way it is currently, if Aric could taunt there would be no reason for M1-4X to exist.

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SwordofSodan
03.18.2012 , 08:18 AM | #20
At level 44 I decided to go pure heal spec with my sorcerer and I prefer it more than my old hybrid dps spec. I send companion in to dps while I hang back and heal/dot--I think it works much better.