AndantePhist Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Let me just point this out, since there's confusion about it. The 1.1.2. bag changes have reduced the RNG element on drops DRAMATICALLY. Exactly what you guys asked for. Instead of hoping to get specific item tokens, you now get (more) commendations that you can turn into an item of your choice. That is a lot more deterministic and reliable than opening bags and hoping for a token. -- Georg It's obvious from comments here that the patch note is not specific enough, so we'll get it updated before the patch goes to the live servers. Here are some specifics: Champion Bags now always contain 15 Centurion Commendations AND 7 Champion Commendations. Battlemaster Bags now always contain 15 Champion Commendations. So Centurion gearing up progression for new level 50s is increased significantly and Champion gearing up progression will be steady. We do still intend on adding more intro level 50 PvP items as well as change how Battlemaster Commendations operate toward the same 'steady' goal. It's just the scope of that change was more than could be done in a weekly patch as it included vendor changes, conversions to existing commendations on players already, etc. That being said, the current interim 'gearing up' system will change significantly when we introduce Ranked Warzones (aiming for Game Update 1.2). Stay tuned for more details on that. - Gabe The cost of Champion and Centurion items are NOT changing. The chance for a Battlemaster Commendation to be in a Battlemaster Bag is NOT changing. It is still 25%. To reiterate the mention in my previous post, we will be changing Battlemaster Commendation drops in a future patch toward the same 'steady' progession goal without changing the overall average time to gear up. SAVE UP YOUR CHAMP BAGS EVERYONE... 7 champion commendations per champ bag is helluva good deal (hell... even 5 champ commendations per bag would be a sweet deal). unless you want to gamble right now... Bioware I have slightly more faith in you now... NOW FIX ILUM! Edited February 2, 2012 by AndantePhist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McVade Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Yeah, gotta give it up. Gabe finally got something right. Now let's just work on making Resolve an actual mechanic, not a dirty joke scrawled on the bathroom wall. I'd occasionally like to control my character in PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakimou Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Wait, so what about bm commendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vealage Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Edited. We get Champ tokens in Battlemaster Bags AS WELL AS a 25% chance to get a Battlemaster Token Edited February 3, 2012 by Vealage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qanlayeni Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Wait, so what about bm commendations? Oh dont worry, it will still take forever to get 1 bit Im currently 20 bags, 3 BM comms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillianXXX Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Damnit, just bought a champbag for commendations... As usual, there was naaffiiiiinnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blarse Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Wait, so what about bm commendations? Those are unchanged from the current system. Good changes imo, means I'll just be saving my daily/weekly bags for now and get to 1k/1k commendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetou Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Oh dont worry, it will still take forever to get 1 bit Im currently 20 bags, 3 BM comms Apparently its a 25% drop rate so from 20 bags 'average' would be 5. 3 is unlucky but not THAT unlucky/unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaiyne Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I don't see what's so exciting about this if we don't know the champion prices. Perhaps I am reading it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndantePhist Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 I don't see what's so exciting about this if we don't know the champion prices. Perhaps I am reading it wrong. champ prices staying the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctournys Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I don't see what's so exciting about this if we don't know the champion prices. Perhaps I am reading it wrong. exactly the same as they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krossfade Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 This is a really good change over all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai-Eurah-Tird Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 GOod, now I can get the mods I want and put it in the peices I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_shades Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Champ prices cant be staying the same, or they are just giving them away. They said it was just reducing the RNG range so it will be more steady. Don't expect it to be faster, it should still take as long as the avg old system person to gear up. Just those unlucky guys wont have to deal with 0-20s anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukirshiro Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Champ prices cant be staying the same, or they are just giving them away. They said it was just reducing the RNG range so it will be more steady. Don't expect it to be faster, it should still take as long as the avg old system person to gear up. Just those unlucky guys wont have to deal with 0-20s anymore. There'll be new gear in 1.2. I don't think they really care how fast people get champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndantePhist Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 I hope they will also change the way BM bags work, but so far its a move in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOvertone Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 This is a good change. Now they need to adjust it for Battlemaster Boxes as well. I'm pretty close to BM and have no use anymore for Champ comms. They mentioned the change is coming. Hopefully it's coming sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foenixz Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 <SIGH> Lootz to the welfares yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asurai Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 <SIGH> Lootz to the welfares yet again not quite; even at 7 champion per bag; the weapon cost what 72? so 10 bag for the weapon ? not too welfare imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merras Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 This change is not enough. They should remove PvP gear completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blarse Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 <SIGH> Lootz to the welfares yet again It's loot to those who put in the time instead of those who just happen to get lucky, I don't see the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerbase Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Welfare system it is then, more like WOW every passing day. Edited February 3, 2012 by Panzerbase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndantePhist Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 This change is not enough. They should remove PvP gear completely. lolwut? then everyone will wear columni/rakata gear Then they will remove columni/rakata gear since some people don't want to PVE... Then everyone will wear orange gear with epic 49/50 crafted mods Then they will remove crafting/orange gear because some people don't want to craft. Then everyone will wear green gear dropped from quests/mobs... Then they will remove all green gear because some people just dont want to play this game... Sound logic is sound... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrellaris Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 <SIGH> Lootz to the welfares yet again You thought that Lootz to those that geared up under the old ways was fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidopro Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 saw this coming...actually most people did so they didn't even bother with the gear grind yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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