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Hoth, nobody seems effected by the cold

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UncleTom
01.11.2012 , 01:06 AM | #1
So everybody on Hoth just wears the same jackets they wore on Tatooine and every other planet? I guess there's no need for big warm jackets like in Ep V when 3,000 years earlier they had super-magic jackets that had mega-thermal insulation.

Or am I just nitpicking?

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TotalOverkill
01.11.2012 , 01:13 AM | #2
I dunno about you... but my BH was actually issued thermal underwear before he stepped out onto the planet.

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UncleTom
01.11.2012 , 01:17 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by TotalOverkill View Post
I dunno about you... but my BH was actually issued thermal underwear before he stepped out onto the planet.
I received a stimulant to resist cold, but haven't needed to use it. My real complaint is aesthetics. Nobody is dressed any differently than any other planet. Yet everyone is talking about how cold it is here.

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TitusVorenus
01.11.2012 , 02:21 AM | #4
I noticed this too as a Trooper. I see Republic soldiers in a Scout Trooper helmet and a kama. On the Star Wars version of Pluto. Non sequitur
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Fardreamer
01.11.2012 , 02:27 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by TitusVorenus View Post
I noticed this too as a Trooper. I see Republic soldiers in a Scout Trooper helmet and a kama. On the Star Wars version of Pluto. Non sequitur
The armor the republic troopers are wear IS the cold weather gear. If you looked, you'd see its different than the armor they wear on every other planet.

Just because it looks like the scout armor from episode 6 does not mean that's what it is in this timeline.
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JDTC
01.11.2012 , 02:30 AM | #6
this was kind of jarring for me too, walking into a base and seeing all the officers wearing slacks and dress hats. it would have been cool to see the NPCs in cold-weather gear like the HAZMAT soldiers on Quesh (where NPCs also have gas masks)
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DarthMoord
01.11.2012 , 02:34 AM | #7
Man, you think that's bad? At least my Juggernaut is running around in full body armor. Meanwhile, here's Jaesa Willsaam trudging along in an arctic wasteland in a dress with an exposed midriff and bare arms with nothing but a hood covering her head wondering aloud how she can't wait to find out whether spilled blood freezes before it hits the ice.
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TitusVorenus
01.11.2012 , 03:08 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Fardreamer View Post
The armor the republic troopers are wear IS the cold weather gear. If you looked, you'd see its different than the armor they wear on every other planet.

Just because it looks like the scout armor from episode 6 does not mean that's what it is in this timeline.

Armor must logically follow a pattern based on form and function.

For extreme cold weather, armor would necessarily require much insulation and heating systems (as in spacesuits), and would thereby be bulky.
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Foxfirega
01.11.2012 , 03:25 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by TitusVorenus View Post
Armor must logically follow a pattern based on form and function.

For extreme cold weather, armor would necessarily require much insulation and heating systems (as in spacesuits), and would thereby be bulky.
Would they?

The black sleeve present in a lot of the Trooper armor is a thermal insulation layer. In addition to keeping heat in, it keeps it out as well. It also functions as limited blaster and kinetic dispersion/dampening (the real work is supposed to be done by the armored plates, but the sleeve itself does help a little).

A full suit (with the outer casing and all, plus helmet) also offers limited resistance against biological and chemical agents (no substitute for an actual environ suit, but it can buy you some time). Mostly due in part that a lot of armor throughout Republic history has been, for dedicated combat units, fully powered (hence the backpack) and actually did have air filtration and limited heating elements (the latter dispersed through the black sleeve).

It's likely to consider that they would be able to issue lighter armor or sealed suits specifically for cold-weather survival (or just a thermal shield - the Old Republic era had far better personal shielding available then later eras, mostly due to lost technology, similar to stealth tech) that wouldn't necessarily be all that bulky.

Spacesuits, on the other hand, require a lot more consideration (pressurization, air recycling, and so on) beyond just thermal insulation. :U

I mean, look at what the Rebel troopers were wearing as combat gear on Hoth in Episode 4. That wasn't exactly all that bulky (no more bulky then Russian infantry uniforms in WWII anyway, which I'm sure lead at least some inspiration).

EDIT: Speaking of Hoth, the biggest addition to the Stormtrooper armor for 'Snow Troopers' was, in addition to a better heating unit (bigger backpack), just a wind cloak. It was otherwise just the standard Stormtrooper armor.
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DervimNorth
01.11.2012 , 03:37 AM | #10
Logic...In STAR WARS...Seriously? It's a fraggin fantasy in space