DarthVindictus Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Seriously, why was this changed from beta where you could wear a mask with a hood over top. Certain characters in the game don't look right not having a hood over their mask. In particular, a certain Dark Lord of the Sith who made his debut in Knights of the Old Republic. He looks ridiculous without the hood, and so does my character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodisiac Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Also, it's interesting to note that in EVERY trailer for the game there is a sith wearing a mask with a hood. I mean, Darth Malgus is the poster child for that combination.. I played a Sith Inquisitor in EVERY build of Beta, but can't bring myself to touch one now. If my character looks ridiculous, I lose all motivation to play him. I get it, helmets were causing some clipping errors... But let's not destroy such an iconic part of the Old Republic canon to fix a few minor graphical issues. Maybe put headgear into two categories, helmets and masks. Helmets can remove the hood graphic and masks can leave it on. The particular models that caused clipping issues can simply be labeled as helmets (or hats for light armor). The rest can be labeled as masks. I'd really love to play my SI, but looking at him makes me angry.. Also, the first time I saw that particular boss in that one instance since they took away mask/hood combos, I literally felt sick to my stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathMagician Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Not to mention in beta us Twi'lek's had our lekku tucked forward for hoods... Now we do not have them all, because scrubs had problems with clipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcastic Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 You've got to be forcing kidding me....you seriously can't have a mask on while wearing a hooded robe? And yet they have screenshots in the media section of a sith wearing a mask/hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVindictus Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 Not to mention in beta us Twi'lek's had our lekku tucked forward for hoods... Now we do not have them all, because scrubs had problems with clipping. Yeah, it was somewhat plausible for a certain NPC spoiler character for the inquisitors to make some sense for Twi'lek inquisitors, due to his hood maybe covering the Lekku, but now it just looks dumb because the "Ancestor" is not possibly a Twi'lek. I can't pick up an assassin even though I played Assassin through several beta builds, once they made that change, I Really wanted to use that NPC's mask with a hooded robe, the look was amazing, but once they changed it I looked plain goofy and couldn't stand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewolfgang Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 And if I select "Hide Head slot", that means I want my Jedi to wear the CHEST PIECE HOOD down!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcastic Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 And if I select "Hide Head slot", that means I want my Jedi to wear the CHEST PIECE HOOD down!! The hood of the robe is part of the chestpiece, not your helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewolfgang Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) The hood of the robe is part of the chestpiece, not your helm. I know that, that's the point. I hide my head slot, I know you don't get this - SO I CAN SEE THE CHARACTER I MADE!! Wow!! Imagine that!!! Edited December 22, 2011 by davewolfgang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhemont Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I'm an imperial agent, and I agree, it looks like a joke as it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodisiac Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) The real irony is that I use the "hide head slot" option to be able to actually see the hood on my robe heh Also, think about how important masks are to Sith culture.. the Dark Side corrupts and twists a Sith's appearance.. wearing a mask is part of how Sith culture copes with that.. It creates the mystery and sinister persona.. Edited December 22, 2011 by Aphrodisiac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcastic Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 This honestly makes me very disappointed. I was looking forward to having the mask+hood combo VERY MUCH. I don't understand why this isn't in the game. It kind of pisses me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVindictus Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 Let's not forget Darth Vindican from the Return Trailer, hood, with a mask, until the mask gets sliced off and his hood falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodisiac Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 This honestly makes me very disappointed. I was looking forward to having the mask+hood combo VERY MUCH. I don't understand why this isn't in the game. It kind of pisses me off. What is more infuriating is that is WAS in game, but was removed. Due in part to some minor complaints about texture clipping (primarily on republic side where there are fewer masks and more hats for the head slot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcastic Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) Let's not forget Darth Vindican from the Return Trailer, hood, with a mask, until the mask gets sliced off and his hood falls. http://www.swtor.com/media/screens/sith-assassin-0 There's an in-game screenshot of a hood & mask on at the same time and it looks PERFECTLY FINE to me. Edited December 22, 2011 by MrSarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVindictus Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 http://www.swtor.com/media/screens/sith-assassin-0 There's an in-game screenshot of a hood & mask on at the same time and it looks PERFECTLY FINE to me. Yeah, but that's from an older build of beta. If you try wearing a hooded robe and most masks now (there are a few that don't do this but most will cut off the hood) it disables the hood on the robe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcastic Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Yeah, but that's from an older build of beta. If you try wearing a hooded robe and most masks now (there are a few that don't do this but most will cut off the hood) it disables the hood on the robe. I don't understand why seeing that it worked earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVindictus Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 I don't understand why seeing that it worked earlier. It's because there are some head items that are actually hats, not masks that have pointy cones and horns and other goofy stuff (especially for Jedi Consulars), they clipped through hoods. But instead of fixing those helmets they did an umbrella approach of any head item that covers the entire head and not just the face disables hoods. It's a lame "fix" and honestly why couldn't they have just told their art team to not design goofy looking hats that most people tend to HATE on their inquisitors and consulars anyway? Everything for Consular and Inquisitor should be designed to work with hooded robes, as they are iconic looks for Jedi and Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkilZodiac Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Yes, for the love of god we need masks + hoods. The fact that it isn't in the game is an abomination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 It's because there are some head items that are actually hats, not masks that have pointy cones and horns and other goofy stuff (especially for Jedi Consulars), they clipped through hoods. But instead of fixing those helmets they did an umbrella approach of any head item that covers the entire head and not just the face disables hoods. It's a lame "fix" and honestly why couldn't they have just told their art team to not design goofy looking hats that most people tend to HATE on their inquisitors and consulars anyway? Everything for Consular and Inquisitor should be designed to work with hooded robes, as they are iconic looks for Jedi and Sith. Kind of a needed workaround until they can go through every single piece of headgear in the game, add a bit for "clipsHood", set it to true or false, and test it to make sure it works properly and that they have everything flagged correctly. That's the kind of thing that takes some time, and there are far more critical priorities right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVindictus Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 Kind of a needed workaround until they can go through every single piece of headgear in the game, add a bit for "clipsHood", set it to true or false, and test it to make sure it works properly and that they have everything flagged correctly. That's the kind of thing that takes some time, and there are far more critical priorities right now. Do you really think they're going to even bother fixing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith-Knight Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Its minor but really lame change, the Mask hood combo does look awesome, i dont care if there is a little clipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunitsukami Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I honestly don't understand why the ability to have a hood over a mask isn't in the game, is really weird and takes away a lot of variation between characters. Same way they should have made it possible to play with the hood up or the hood down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjskull Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I know to others that this may seem minor, but I really, really hope they fix this. I really want to be able to wear a Mask/Hood combo... I hope they fix this... If the clipping issues are minor, who cares...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MylzDavis Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I know to others that this may seem minor, but I really, really hope they fix this. I really want to be able to wear a Mask/Hood combo... I hope they fix this... If the clipping issues are minor, who cares...? Obviously BW cares, because if they did that they'd get a bunch of .. "OMG why cant they fix this clipping issue! this game sucks!!! omg, gonna nerd rage quit" they're probably working on it, just gotta have some patience people... hasnt been out a month yet lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocek Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 What is annoying me more about this, is that on my twi'lek now that I have a hooded chest piece is that it also removed the head piece I selected in my character customization. So now not only can I not have my hood up as sith inq, which totally sucks, I also have part of my characters customization removed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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