Grinzx Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) Let me get this out first, I love Jawas. I've always wanted a pet Jawa or a companion for one (Sadly I am not a BH) The Bigger Question is this :: When is the Jawa race going to become playable I for one love Jawas, and have always thought they would be a fun race to play. However I have not found a game that allows you to play as a Jawa (I may be mistaken there is probably one stray cartridge game that allows you that pleasure) Nonetheless this thread is for Jawa lovers and enthusiasts Here are some reasons why Jawas COULD be a playable race. 1: Tatooine Storyline :: Openings for JK/Consular or SW/IQ (No matter how silly that seems It is definitely possible as in the origin quest line for the Consular (Exclusive If I'm not mistaken)) You decide if a Flesh Raider can join the Jedi Order or not since it Is Force Sensitive. (The Story line for the Flesh Raider ends after you make your decision) This does leave open the door that if the race is force sensitive there is a chance. 2: If It has a gun it will shoot it :: From the BH Companion to simple mobs in Tatooine you see that the Jawas are completely viable with a gun leaving openings to the BH/IA and Smuggler/Trooper Story lines (No matter how ridiculous it may seem for a Jawa to have that sort of story line and I am also guessing the armor adaptation would look Alien to us at first but I'm for it) 3: The Cloaks Can Go :: Even if they are as to be a described a "Rat Like" race of people (Hence why they wear there cloaks not only for sun and sand protection but to cover the face) I have faith in Bioware to make them look presentable to the community. Leave your Jawa Love or Criticism below! Edited July 6, 2012 by Grinzx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZirusZero Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Yes. Let us break Bioware's species-ist "Basic only" rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charell Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 They should be playable! since i first heard of this game, I've always wanted to be a jawa. before they even announced the classes i pictured myself being a sith sorcerer shooting lightning everywhere that was a jawa. just think of an evil jawa sith! if bioware did it right they wouldn't all have to be cute. some could be evil and scary sith, and some could be epic looking jedi. please bioware!!!!! Give us the Jawa's we deserve!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bright_ephemera Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Cloak and hood stays. Jawas must forever be shrouded in mystery. However, seeing a Jawa let loose with a blaster pistol on Tatooine was pretty much one of the greatest moments of my SWTOR career, so yes, please let me go be a Jawa smuggler or bounty hunter! Or Inquisitor. Good Lord, I would pay to be a Jawa Inquisitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgon Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 LOTRO monsters but instead with Jawas and Sand People on Tat as Tusken Raiders and Jawas raid forts that the Republic and Empire want to capture and secure for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgroond Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Yes to playable Jawas. Give them various different cloaks and hoods and tiny lightsabers. And mini mini-pets. Maybe even go crazy and offer us differet colour options for the eyes. Utini! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCorvus Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 It will never happen... Jawas are secretly the lost "Yoda" race. and I think that I read somewhere that Lucas said that outside of the very few games you could, "Yodas" will never be a playable race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtwo Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 It will never happen... Jawas are secretly the lost "Yoda" race. and I think that I read somewhere that Lucas said that outside of the very few games you could, "Yodas" will never be a playable race I have no idea where you heard that, but the only thing Jawas and Yoda have in common is height. I'm not even sure ears that big would fit in their hoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaruin Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 If Jawa's were playable, there would have to be class restictions. That would cause a lot of complaining, but there are good reasons: Consular/Inquisitor - Yes, there are Jawa's that can use the Force. Size doesn't matter for using their force powers. (So only Sorcerer/Sage AC would work, I think.) Knight/Warrior - No. A Jawa's body isn't suited for their melee moves. It would look ridiculous and make no sense (strength as main attribute). Smuggler - yes, no problem. suits a Jawa well. Bounty Hunter - Yes. If he is good at what he does, he will get offers. But the other Bounty Hunters would laugh at him. Trooper - Probably not. It would be very difficult for a Jawa to fit into a republic military unit. Imperial Agent - No, the Sith empire is far too racist to accept a Jawa there. Even human like aliens have it difficult there. Jawa or Evocii are far to alien for this Empire. Also, romance would have to be locked. Kissing animations wouldn't work and it would be ridiculous. But Jawa's will probably never come. If the do some of the more alien aliens I would prefer Kel-Dor, Gand, Wookies and Trandoshans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebergy Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 NO! Definitely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffystuffs Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) Also, romance would have to be locked. Kissing animations wouldn't work and it would be ridiculous. Noooooooooooooooo....just don't do the kissing animation. If they added Jawas I'd actually do a romance...a female JK Jawa and Doc...yes. Edited July 6, 2012 by stuffystuffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBomby Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 If you cant tell by my avatar and my signature I love Jawas and I want them to be playable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Eminok Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I once saw a Jawa's face in SWG... it was hideous. Please let's keep the hoods ON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Alyria Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 That would be awesome. A nice break from blue human, red human, green human, blind human, human with tentacles, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temeluchus Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) It will never happen... Jawas are secretly the lost "Yoda" race. and I think that I read somewhere that Lucas said that outside of the very few games you could, "Yodas" will never be a playable race While it's true that George Lucas highly discourages authors from using Yoda or Yoda's species character in their books(sometimes to the point of actually killing the project or forcing a rewrite), will not allow the species to be named or expanded upon in terms of their culture,population,society,home planet etc and it takes a lot of wheeling and dealing to get a NPC Yoda species character in your SW game as a licensee let alone the Herculean effort it would take to have a playable Yoda's species, the part about Yoda's species and Jawas being related is absolutely false. I'm hoping that was some kind of joke that didn't translate well in written form. As for the OP and others wanting Jawas as playable species in TOR, while you are entitled to your opinion, no thanks do not want. Jawas are better left as companions in a game like TOR due to the romances,inability to speak Basic, believability in them being certain classes and ACs(a Jawa Lolsmash Rage Jugg!?!?),and lore(yes some Jawa can use the Force to a degree and they serve as their clan's shaman, I'm not aware of any Jawa in canon that is powerful enough to wield the Force like a JC,JK,SI and SW ) EDIT : Ok, there is a Force using Jawa in a Imperial questline on Tatooine. But according to how SW canon works all that is official is that some Imp officers think the Jawa can use the Force and some don't and they send the player to investigate, the Jawa in question does have sustained JC abilities but game mechanics do not equal canon. Edited July 6, 2012 by Temeluchus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Two Jedi are standing guard on Taris. They see a small shape moving towards a group of Republic soldiers and are just about to call out a warning when they see a red lightsaber blade appear and the soldiers go down very quickly as the little Sith Lord shreds them. Jedi #1: Is that a..... Jawa?!?!?! Jedi #2: With a LIGHTSABER??? Jedi #1: We are so screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgroond Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 One has managed Jedi level. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Akial Note the 'he could speak Basic without an accent' bit. It's lore (apparently). Make it so... oops, wrong one... *walks away quietly* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temeluchus Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 One has managed Jedi level. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Akial Note the 'he could speak Basic without an accent' bit. It's lore (apparently). Make it so... oops, wrong one... *walks away quietly* Ewwwww, tabletop RPG character, kill it with fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinzx Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) I believe that Jawas would be able to learn Basic and wield the same powers a JC/JK or a SW/SI It never states that a SW/SI or JC/JK has to be pure brute strength, alot of the philosophy even with the Dark Side is about Emotion or the lack of it. As for romance I agree there would be a problem but I would be fine without any kissing scenes since alot of the "Sexual" stuff is cut out through a black screen anyway. For IA/ or RT There would be some problems sure, but there is a reason why some races are restricted from certain classes unless you use the Legacy Feature to your benefit. Edited July 6, 2012 by Grinzx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaruin Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) I believe that Jawas would be able to learn Basic and wield the same powers a JC/JK or a SW/SI It never states that a SW/SI or JC/JK has to be pure brute strength, alot of the philosophy even with the Dark Side is about Emotion or the lack of it. As for romance I agree there would be a problem but I would be fine without any kissing scenes since alot of the "Sexual" stuff is cut out through a black screen anyway. For IA/ or RT There would be some problems sure, but there is a reason why some races are restricted from certain classes unless you use the Legacy Feature to your benefit. But strenght is their primary attribute. And in a melee fight, size does matter. Yoda has to jump around all the time to make up for his size. So for a Jawa who really fights with his lightsaber you would have to remake the animations for almost all attacks. Would be nice, but won't happen. And romance... I can't take Kira calling a Jawa "Tough Guy" serious. Jawa romances would be comedy, nothing more. Edited July 6, 2012 by Maaruin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgroond Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Ewwwww, tabletop RPG character, kill it with fire! Ooh, hard luck. You rolled a 4. Attack is deflected due to the +5 Robe of fire avoidance and you lose 10 HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCorvus Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 While it's true that George Lucas highly discourages authors from using Yoda or Yoda's species character in their books(sometimes to the point of actually killing the project or forcing a rewrite), will not allow the species to be named or expanded upon in terms of their culture,population,society,home planet etc and it takes a lot of wheeling and dealing to get a NPC Yoda species character in your SW game as a licensee let alone the Herculean effort it would take to have a playable Yoda's species, the part about Yoda's species and Jawas being related is absolutely false. I'm hoping that was some kind of joke that didn't translate well in written form. As for the OP and others wanting Jawas as playable species in TOR, while you are entitled to your opinion, no thanks do not want. Jawas are better left as companions in a game like TOR due to the romances,inability to speak Basic, believability in them being certain classes and ACs(a Jawa Lolsmash Rage Jugg!?!?),and lore(yes some Jawa can use the Force to a degree and they serve as their clan's shaman, I'm not aware of any Jawa in canon that is powerful enough to wield the Force like a JC,JK,SI and SW ) EDIT : Ok, there is a Force using Jawa in a Imperial questline on Tatooine. But according to how SW canon works all that is official is that some Imp officers think the Jawa can use the Force and some don't and they send the player to investigate, the Jawa in question does have sustained JC abilities but game mechanics do not equal canon. Thank You... the slight sarcastic joke i said about Jawas and Yoda, was not wasted... BUT... the comment about the ears not fitting in the hood, maybe they are pinned back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranadiel_Marius Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 They never will be playable, so it really doesn't matter if they should or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinzx Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 But strenght is their primary attribute. And in a melee fight, size does matter. Yoda has to jump around all the time to make up for his size. So for a Jawa who really fights with his lightsaber you would have to remake the animations for almost all attacks. Would be nice, but won't happen. And romance... I can't take Kira calling a Jawa "Tough Guy" serious. Jawa romances would be comedy, nothing more. Developing animations for every race is not unobtainable Guild Wars 2 and WoW have no trouble adapting animations for a certain race. Now its not saying that because WoW had this SWTOR should too, its giving some examples of other developers that have done wonderful animations for each race. I would have to disagree that strength matters when it comes to the lore of a Jedi or Sith, what really stands out is pure emotion. So for a Sith the more Hate, Anger, Sorrow he/she feels the stronger the force in them. (At least that is the way it goes in the Star Wars Universe) Same for a Jedi with Peace, Tranquility, Justice (To a point) When Yoda fights, the philosophy of the Jedi is that the force flows through the Jedi allowing enhancement of Strength/Agility/Awareness it states nowhere that you have to be a certain size or strength in any Force Teaching (Unless you count the Racism against them by the Empire, but really the SI story line is about being a slave and going to the top no matter how you are viewed. This can apply to Jawas) And if you dont want to be a Jawa on your BH because the race doesn't feel right? Do not use it then, I get it completely I myself do not want my Sith Warrior any other race than a Sith Pureblood, same with a Jedi I wouldnt want anything other than human. Its all about personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaruin Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Developing animations for every race is not unobtainable Guild Wars 2 and WoW have no trouble adapting animations for a certain race. Now its not saying that because WoW had this SWTOR should too, its giving some examples of other developers that have done wonderful animations for each race. I would have to disagree that strength matters when it comes to the lore of a Jedi or Sith, what really stands out is pure emotion. So for a Sith the more Hate, Anger, Sorrow he/she feels the stronger the force in them. (At least that is the way it goes in the Star Wars Universe) Same for a Jedi with Peace, Tranquility, Justice (To a point) When Yoda fights, the philosophy of the Jedi is that the force flows through the Jedi allowing enhancement of Strength/Agility/Awareness it states nowhere that you have to be a certain size or strength in any Force Teaching (Unless you count the Racism against them by the Empire, but really the SI story line is about being a slave and going to the top no matter how you are viewed. This can apply to Jawas) I was speaking about game mechanics. Strength is the primary attribute for Warriors and knights. (Together with endurence, if you want to tank.) Lorewise a Jawa Jedi Knight would be possible if he jumps around alot. But developing new animation would take much effort and I'd rather see it invested into other species which are more than comic relief. And if you dont want to be a Jawa on your BH because the race doesn't feel right? Do not use it then, I get it completely I myself do not want my Sith Warrior any other race than a Sith Pureblood, same with a Jedi I wouldnt want anything other than human. Its all about personal preference. Yeah, but the NPC Bounty Hunters should laugh at the Jawa Bounty Hunter. New voice overs = even more effort. Jawa means you will have to invest much and wil get little out of it. (No one will make his decision if he wants to continue with this game only because of playable Jawa's.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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