Raynezazki Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Question...how exactly do you mouse turn? Noob question I know but I tried the right click + left click and it feels so awkward and uncomfortable. What was I doing wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatPERSON Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) i only right click and move forward with my w key. A and D are strafe left and right and i unbind s because you wont need it. i found this was easier for me. also as you get used to it, increase your camera rotation speed (increases the speed at which the camera rotates with the right click turning). Edit: camera rotation speed is in preferences and under controls i think, could be wrong Edited March 28, 2014 by thatPERSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raynezazki Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 Ah I see. That is a improvement over what I was doing. Feels smoother too. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillshock Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I don't think I ever let go of the mouse-button... except for selecting a far-away-teammate to intercede. *ponders* Also: good keybindings are super important. And different for everyone. Me for example have al LOT of keybindings... and by now they are about the same in every mmo: 1 Shift+1 2 Shift+2 3 Shift+3 4 Shift+4 5 Shift+5 F Shift+F G Shift+G R Shift+R Shift+Q Shift+E H Shift+H T Shift+T ^ Shift+^ < Shift+< Shift+X Shift+C Shift+V F1 F2 F3 F4 Shift+F1 Shift+F2 Shift+F3 Shift+F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 And have programmed my extra mouse buttons to: Strg+Shift+' Strg+Shift+ß Strg+Shift+0 Strg+Shift+9 Strg+Shift+8 Strg+Shift+7 Strg+Shift+- Strg+Shift+. Strg+Shift+, And some skills I just click. Like "mail-droid" or such. Combine keybinding with mouseturning and you play a whole different game than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Put the most essential keys to those keys you can find very fast. For example escape abilities on the first keys : F1, F2, F3, F4 . You can press them then without having to think which key is where, which is good for beginners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesixxpack Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Ah I see. That is a improvement over what I was doing. Feels smoother too. Thanks. Stick with it, you'll be glad you did when you're loling circles around KB turners. Edited March 28, 2014 by Joesixxpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Beers Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 It also helps to increase the max distance of your camera and zoom out a bit. Let's you see more of what's around you and gives you better awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puissant Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) It also helps to increase the max distance of your camera and zoom out a bit. Let's you see more of what's around you and gives you better awareness. This ^. Btw i'm pretty sure he's talking about modifying the .ini file which i really think everybody should. And welcome to the next level. Mouse turning was a huge step up in how i played. Helps alot if you get a logitech g600 or something similar. g600>naga Edited March 28, 2014 by Puissant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 How am I supposed to click if I use my mouse to turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Beers Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 How am I supposed to click if I use my mouse to turn? Buy footpedals, duh. Stupid towels, don't know nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teclado Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) How am I supposed to click if I use my mouse to turn? Why turn, anyway? Just keep you back to the wall and your enemies in front. In all seriousness, though, I have somewhat smallish hands for a dude, so I can't really do crazy stretch keybinds like shift + h or even shift + t very consistently. So, I got myself a mouse with the 12 buttons on the side (razer naga in my case). That coupled with 'a' and 'd' strafing, mouse turning, and modifying the .ini file to zoom way out - it's like you're playing a new game. Going from keyboard turning and clicking everything (and getting used to playing that way for about a year), it was a real pain switching. I tried cold turkey a few times, got really frustrated, changed it back. I did that a few times before I finally got the hang of it. I'm never going back now - if my naga breaks, I'm going to buy a new one before I log in again. Anyway, good luck. It will up your game, for sure. Edited March 28, 2014 by teclado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raynezazki Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) I don't think I ever let go of the mouse-button... except for selecting a far-away-teammate to intercede. *ponders* Also: good keybindings are super important. And different for everyone. Me for example have al LOT of keybindings... and by now they are about the same in every mmo: *snip* And have programmed my extra mouse buttons to: *snip* And some skills I just click. Like "mail-droid" or such. Combine keybinding with mouseturning and you play a whole different game than before. I just...use really basic ones like Q and such. I have some basic shift and control ones (mostly shift and control on the extra mouse buttons my crappy mouse has). But I do still constantly screw up on the shift hitting. Edit: BAH it took away my post responding thanks to everyone with something constructive to say. Anyway thanks to everyone for the tips Edited March 29, 2014 by Raynezazki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I use a joystick and Track IR to play swtor. #nextlevelcontrols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I use a joystick and Track IR to play swtor. #nextlevelcontrols #nextlevelPoT5strats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 #nextlevelPoT5strats Just wait til I get my new FaceboOkculus Rift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heal-To-Full Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Question...how exactly do you mouse turn? Noob question I know but I tried the right click + left click and it feels so awkward and uncomfortable. What was I doing wrong? When I first started with this type of MMO, it actually felt insanely awkward how you had to turn with your keyboard, particularly with A and D, after so many hours in shooters where you always mouse turn and A and D strafe. Wish I hadn't wasted time learning that MMO kind of movement and went to FPS style keys right away. Anyway, for a new player used to keyboard turning, this is what I'd suggest as a transition strategy: 1. Bind S and F to strafe, E to forward. 2. Bind Alt+S, +F, +E, +D to turning and forward/back. 3. Bind middle mouse button to "auto run". This assumes a regular office keyboard. If your keyboard has an extra row of keys on the left, stick to WASD rather than ESDF. You rarely need keyboard turning or back, but they do have their uses - allow you to use your mouse to work on inventory etc. Also, this way you can just hold Alt and use your old movement style. Then you move forward by holding W or E, turn by holding either mouse button, try not to backpedal, but strafe. If you absolutely have to click - another player, etc - try to still prefer strafing over turning. You have a 270 degree freedom of movement with no turning required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaeVictis Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 You can also use a AHK script to turn mouse look on/off by right clicking so that you don't have to hold the key down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uber_the_Goober Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 This ^. Btw i'm pretty sure he's talking about modifying the .ini file which i really think everybody should. Instructions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaZanetti Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Does anyone else use the mouse to control all of their movement, for intance i have strafe left and right bound to mouse button 4/5 and walk backwards on mouse button 3, this frees my whole left hand to press abilitys. This does however mean im reliant on tab to select targets which can be a frustrating affair at times. Am i one the only one doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heal-To-Full Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Tried it. I think you're not doing it the best possible way. Rather than backpedal with middle button, use it to move forward. Make some shift+combo for backpedal, it's so rarely used. Done, now you have all your keys and can click and move forward at the same time. I used buttons 4/5 for left/right strafe, 6/7 forward/back. In the end I came back to WAD, because my keyboard is a lot more convenient to use and has a lot of extra keys accessible from WASD position, so I don't really feel the need to move my hand anywhere else. Only 4 rows of keys I can't access from WASD and I bind them for interface and other stuff. If I had a plain 101-105 key unit, I'd probably use all-mouse movement as well with Alt+ESDFWR as backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josewales Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I use both both mouse & WASD. When going to point A to B, I WASD and use left click mouse to camera swing to keep an eye on 360. When I strafe a target, I use WASD and mouse for quick turns if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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