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Gunship One-Shots? Just Plain Dumb

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Gunship One-Shots? Just Plain Dumb

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mattycutts
02.20.2014 , 06:23 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by DroidDreamer View Post
I have a fully mastered drone carrier upgraded for max health and the 9% DR and even after the shield bypass nerfs I am STILL being one-shouted by gunships at full health and full shields? Come on. That's not productive for the health of GSF. It needs to be fixed. I've no problem with gunships; I enjoy mine! But rail gun one-shots are dumb and no fun.

I have no problem with the gunship role, including the area denial role. But "oh crap I better stay out of that area or I'll be killed" is different than "I'm running into battle at full health and shields and die instantly." Whatever derpy combo allows this needs a fix ASAP.
i am sorry but i call BS, i have a fully mastered gunship and fully mastered bomber, no gunship that can one shot a bomber with full hull and shields. (only possibility is deathmatch with a damage overcharge perhaps). but thats a boost available to any class of ship.
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Jandi
02.20.2014 , 06:32 AM | #12
I've never been oneshot by gunships on my Pike and trust me, I get shot a lot by gunships cause I take them head on whenever I see one. I call BS as well.

EDIT: What happens a lot though, is that 2 gunships are together, focus firing on one craft at a time. Those are nasty.

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Brewski
02.20.2014 , 07:36 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Verain View Post
I one-shot several bombers today. Maybe one was you?


In all cases, I had the damage overcharge. This makes a giant notice in your ops and screen. If your team doesn't chase the damage overcharge guy (I know I always do when the enemies get it!), then everyone deserves to get one shot.


Now, you MIGHT have a problem with damage overcharge- you shouldn't, it's a great powerup- but your issue is definitely NOT with gunships. Scouts with damage overcharge are the really crazy ones, especially the type 2 scouts. The cluster lock, when mastered, shoots two missiles for 400ish each, and only one can be evaded. That is a ton of damage with DO, and unlike the gunship, it really can't be avoided or turned off with pressure. Every DO I get, on any ship, is normally three quick kills at minimum.
I love getting DO + Weapon Overcharge on my Flashfire in TDM. I once killed two bombers and a gunship in a heavily fortified cluster in about three seconds using this combo plus Bypass and BO. Although it's pretty sick when someone has this, I think it adds a certain amount of flavor to TDM, and I would hate to see it go. At most I think it should become a bit less common.

So yeah, although it is possible for a gunship to one shot a scout with a crit + Bypass, a bomber is another story, and so I would say you ran up against a gunship with the Damage Overcharge. Otherwise you got hit by two gunships working in concert and their shots landed close enough together to seem like one. (I've had this happen too.)

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Armonddd
02.20.2014 , 09:19 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Verain View Post
In all cases, I had the damage overcharge. This makes a giant notice in your ops and screen. If your team doesn't chase the damage overcharge guy (I know I always do when the enemies get it!), then everyone deserves to get one shot.


Now, you MIGHT have a problem with damage overcharge- you shouldn't, it's a great powerup- but your issue is definitely NOT with gunships. Scouts with damage overcharge are the really crazy ones, especially the type 2 scouts.
anything to justify stupid mechanics, right?
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TheMarmalade
02.20.2014 , 09:20 AM | #15
You either came across someone with the damage overcharge in which case this is totally reasonable or came across two gunships working in unison. I know I run a lot with a guildie where one of us uses the ion and the other uses the slug. We basically take shots in unison and appear to one shot people.

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Verain
02.20.2014 , 09:35 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Armonddd View Post
anything to justify stupid mechanics, right?
"You got the quad damage" has a lot of pedigree. It's team death match, after all, you would expect some power ups to change how the play flow is going temporarily.

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Armonddd
02.20.2014 , 09:37 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Verain View Post
"You got the quad damage" has a lot of pedigree. It's team death match, after all, you would expect some power ups to change how the play flow is going temporarily.
No, I would expect power ups to not exist.
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Kuciwalker
02.20.2014 , 09:53 AM | #18
I'm a gunship who aggressively uses damage overcharge and I still think it's kind of dumb/OP. I do think there is some merit to complaints about one-shots, especially one-shots that require an incredible amount of awareness to prevent*. In some cases (bombers) it may be literally impossible to do anything to prevent, even with perfect reaction time upon the gunship coming into range.

*I am fine with the amount of awareness gunships require you to expend in normal circumstances, where it takes two hits to kill. With one-shots and dampening you have to be tabbing through enemies and scanning through the 15km range on a 2.7-second duty cycle to guarantee survival.

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Kain_Turinbar
02.20.2014 , 11:47 AM | #19
I shudder to think of what damage overcharge must do to gunships if it makes my heavy lasers tick for 1000 per shot.

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mattycutts
02.21.2014 , 06:21 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Kain_Turinbar View Post
I shudder to think of what damage overcharge must do to gunships if it makes my heavy lasers tick for 1000 per shot.
sometimes not always a good thing lol quite often when it flashes up with my name having damage overcharge suddenly find im being chased from all directions and hardly get to use the buff lol

in some ways gunship can be quite hard when u get damage overcharge and ya facing a average team unless they leave u alone ofc lol but when im on my scout with damage overcharge dont matter getting chased im still able to inflict high damage, as a moving gunship your not doing much damage but in games on a gunship i am left alone and i have damage overcharge its very nice like shooting fish in a barrell lol
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