By the time of Bane, the ancient Sith race was pretty much gone and we can see the Sith under Rule of Two accept Iktotchi, Twilik, Bith, Muun and Zabrak. How come Palpatine started to hate non humans after he became Emperor? It brought him no benefit at all. Edited September 15, 2012 by Slowpokeking

Maybe he was trying to bring back the Old Ways of the Sith Empire and their specist hatred, or maybe he was always a closet specist before he took over. Heck, he might just look at all aliens and see Jar Jar Binks.

 

But seriously, Palpatine's Empire resembled fascist government more than any other Empire in Star Wars. Fascism, while the most effective form of government, also requires a scapegoat to function. The scapegoat in this case is the aliens of the galaxy.

Which shouldn't really work. Blame the aliens who, for the most part, are responsible for most of the technological marvels and advancements in the galaxy. You'd be hard pressed to find something that Humans came up with entirely on their own, while multiple Alien species have devised various methods of cloning. And it was the Geonosians who created the plans for the Death Star.

 

Really it just reflects much of human xenophobia that's common in the SWU. You can even just look back at our own history and see much the same thing. Whenever people encountered another Culture that wasn't like theirs, their first reaction was generally to hate and destroy it. You see this kind of Specism/Racism in any number of Sci-Fi series and things like "If it's not like us, it's inferior."

 

And if you look around, Jedi aren't totally exempt from such feelings either. You look at the ratio Human Jedi to Alien Jedi, there's a lot more Human ones than not and all the Major characters were Human, except for Yoda. But it was like Obi-Wan, Anakin/Vader, Luke, Leia, Han, Sidious, and Lando over Yoda (who dies) and Chewbacca as main cast for the OT.

Same reason Hitler hated Jews. Just because.

He hated non-humanoids out of arrogance. Humanoids, especially humans, were by far the dominant species in the galaxy and as mentioned above... that mo fo was crazy and arrogant just like der fuhrer.

By the time of Bane, the ancient Sith race was pretty much gone and we can see the Sith under Rule of Two accept Iktotchi, Twilik, Bith, Muun and Zabrak. How come Palpatine started to hate non humans after he became Emperor? It brought him no benefit at all.

 

The Empire in the Original Trilogy were supposed to be the Nazi party / SS. Aliens = Jews, etc.

I agree with whomever said that faschistic regimes require a scapegoat to power them up. Think about it. Palpatine engineered the Clone Wars and the Confederacy was made entirely by aliens; the only human leader was Dooku and later the Imperial propaganda used his connection with the Jedi to slander the order in the eyes of society. After the war Palpatine needed punchbags to gather the masses against so they would be too busy hating "the enemy" to dispute his power and the "untrustworthy", "separatist" aliens were the best target. It was all a matter of cold calculation, not hate.

I agree with whomever said that faschistic regimes require a scapegoat to power them up. Think about it. Palpatine engineered the Clone Wars and the Confederacy was made entirely by aliens; the only human leader was Dooku and later the Imperial propaganda used his connection with the Jedi to slander the order in the eyes of society. After the war Palpatine needed punchbags to gather the masses against so they would be too busy hating "the enemy" to dispute his power and the "untrustworthy", "separatist" aliens were the best target. It was all a matter of cold calculation, not hate.

 

I'm fairly sure this is the reason. I seem to remember a few books mentioning (might have been Labyrinth of Evil? Not sure) how as the Clone Wars went on a lot of anti-alien sentiments started to surface, as it was mostly the human loyalists versus the alien separatists, from what the average person could tell. This was likely deliberate on Palpatine's part, and he took advantage of it to help his rise to power. There's no reason to believe he personally hated aliens, at least no more than he hated any one else, he did have a zabrak apprentice after all. Dooku is stated in the RotS novelization to have anti alien sentiments but I don't think that's reflective of Palpatine, especially as Palpatine was already planning to kill Dooku by that point.

By the time of Bane, the ancient Sith race was pretty much gone and we can see the Sith under Rule of Two accept Iktotchi, Twilik, Bith, Muun and Zabrak. How come Palpatine started to hate non humans after he became Emperor? It brought him no benefit at all.

 

He didn't hate them.

 

 

The Moffs did.

 

Palps had many alien raced agents..

Probably need to do a bit more reading there, he definitely hated aliens.

Probably need to do a bit more reading there, he definitely hated aliens.

 

Thrawn said he was more resented by the Moffs than the actual Emperor for his being of an alien.

The real answer is 'hack writing'. It's the same reason everyone in the Mos Eisley cantina scene was super important. Basically subsequent EU writers decided that, since all the Imperial troops were human, that would be the only reason why. Nevermind that an army composed of dozens of species would need to carry with them dozens of specialized medical facilities, dozens of types of food, dozens of different kinds of uniforms, dozens of different versions of every piece of equipment, and possibly even dozens of different breathable atmospheres. Nope, no other possible reason for only humans, must be racism.

 

The real question that was never answered was... why only white guys? I mean, there's one black guy and one Asian-looking guy in the galaxy, how come the Rebellion got both? Why were there no female Rebel troops, other than Leia? Why no female Imperial naval officers?

Palpatine saw how weak willed and easily agitated other races were from his time as Supreme Chancellor and as a Senator, with that experience I wouldn't blame him for being a bit racist. He had to put up with that stuff for the longest, probably one of the reasons why he disbanded the Senate after the Death Star was completed.

By the time of Bane, the ancient Sith race was pretty much gone and we can see the Sith under Rule of Two accept Iktotchi, Twilik, Bith, Muun and Zabrak. How come Palpatine started to hate non humans after he became Emperor? It brought him no benefit at all.

 

The empires racism in the game and in the movies I see as simply a use of the familiar "Putting on the Reich" trope used in lots and lots of fiction.

 

(correction It's actually this)

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScaryDogmaticAliens

Edited September 17, 2012 by Addaib

Probably need to do a bit more reading there, he definitely hated aliens.

 

He had no problem with Maul, Senator Tao, Thrawn...

 

There was no particular hate on his side, he simply played the string of anti-alien humans on Coruscant which had a lot of power he could subvert to his own agenda...

For him those people were tools... but for him even humans were tools, to be discarded when they were of no use... what DNA they had simply did not matter.

 

the hatred Empire had for aliens was indeed deliberate, but not personal on Palpatine´s part.

 

Most EU persons note that Palpatine was anti-alien, but remember they only put in their point of wiev... none of them were telepaths, and even if they were they wouldn´t be able to break into his mind.

However it is only a fascade he used to promote that he furthered agenda of his supporters. A master stroke indeed.

 

We, however, have insight of his personal space and in Dark Empire actualy even into his psyche...

Edited September 19, 2012 by PaerisKiran

The real question that was never answered was... why only white guys? I mean, there's one black guy and one Asian-looking guy in the galaxy, how come the Rebellion got both? Why were there no female Rebel troops, other than Leia? Why no female Imperial naval officers?

 

Because in most races males are generaly more efficient killing machines than women, who mostly have biological function to take care of offspring. Something about musculature... and given that most other races in SW are mostly products of rather special climate, while humans are more or less universal, it does not make other races very efficient in deployment in different enviroments.

 

And well as for female naval officers... same reason... if you can have muscles why not take them... when Pelleaon was down to 8 sectors of Imperial Remnat he was very happy to recruit just about anyone.

 

however these reasonas are "speciist" anyway... since they do take biological viability of given species and sex into consideration.

making some1 xenophobic, is a quick way to make them look evil, bassically its just another nod to the empire being natzi's, and lucas saying "hey guys here is the bad guy"

I think everyone is right. Sidious needed the human loyalists versus the alien separatists conflict for a galactic political distraction, plus had an underlying hatred (if not severe dislike) for alien races that dates back to the early Sith humans that were "inferior" to the original red Sith species. Sid also had a Muun master that he believed he outclassed. He basically believed that pretty much everyone is his inferior when you get right down to it.... I don't believe he ever would have been happy with an apprentice's ability to take him out and take over properly under the Bane Rule of Two. Edited September 20, 2012 by akaMjolner

Why were there no female Rebel troops, other than Leia? Why no female Imperial naval officers?

 

Read about Admiral Daala.

Read about Admiral Daala.

 

or Ysanne Isard

By the time of Bane, the ancient Sith race was pretty much gone and we can see the Sith under Rule of Two accept Iktotchi, Twilik, Bith, Muun and Zabrak. How come Palpatine started to hate non humans after he became Emperor? It brought him no benefit at all.

 

It wasn't Palpatine who came up with that policy. You can thank Grand Moff Tarkin for that.

 

He presented Darth Sidious with Imperial Communiqué #001044.92v, otherwise known as the Tarkin Doctrine. This document laid out the policies that ultimately would be implemented by the Empire regarding the treatment of non Human races, and was a failure.

Edited September 19, 2012 by DarknessInLight

or Ysanne Isard

 

She was director of intelligence... not a fleet officer... even semicapable fleet officer would not loose a super star destroyer to bunch of rebels... Granted New Republic managed to steal Guardian too but I think it was unfinished in shipyard...

 

How come Palpatine started to hate non humans after he became Emperor? It brought him no benefit at all.

 

ah it brought tremendous benefit... he used that to create impression that he furthers agendas of many anti-alien high positioned people.... Senator Foss Bramson of Coruscat for example... senator Trien from Kuat... many rather influential humans from wealthy systems had strong anti-alien bias... furthering their agenda in this respect gained Palpatine a lot of support with negligable effort on his part.

 

Head of Inquisitorus (bunch of dark Jedi... the "force sensitive spies" Palpatine tried to lay foundation by having Cad Bane kidnap force sensitive children in Clone wars series... they were mosly converts from Jedi service (agricultural, tech and medival) corps...) was a Miraluka (Jerec)

Edited September 19, 2012 by PaerisKiran

By the time of Bane, the ancient Sith race was pretty much gone and we can see the Sith under Rule of Two accept Iktotchi, Twilik, Bith, Muun and Zabrak. How come Palpatine started to hate non humans after he became Emperor? It brought him no benefit at all.

 

Actually it was more of a human supremacy the empire held then it was with Palpatine. Remember dark side breeds a lot of hatred, especially in Xenophobia.

or Ysanne Isard

 

I loved how she was portrayed in the X-Wing comics. I've always been attracted to the wrong type of woman, though.

Which shouldn't really work. Blame the aliens who, for the most part, are responsible for most of the technological marvels and advancements in the galaxy. You'd be hard pressed to find something that Humans came up with entirely on their own, while multiple Alien species have devised various methods of cloning. And it was the Geonosians who created the plans for the Death Star.

 

Really it just reflects much of human xenophobia that's common in the SWU. You can even just look back at our own history and see much the same thing. Whenever people encountered another Culture that wasn't like theirs, their first reaction was generally to hate and destroy it. You see this kind of Specism/Racism in any number of Sci-Fi series and things like "If it's not like us, it's inferior."

 

And if you look around, Jedi aren't totally exempt from such feelings either. You look at the ratio Human Jedi to Alien Jedi, there's a lot more Human ones than not and all the Major characters were Human, except for Yoda. But it was like Obi-Wan, Anakin/Vader, Luke, Leia, Han, Sidious, and Lando over Yoda (who dies) and Chewbacca as main cast for the OT.

 

Actually a human named Raith Sienar came up with the concept of the Death Star as well as the TIE Fighter (whos basic cockpit design is used by every species in some way shape or form) plus he invented the Interdictor Cruisers (also pushed interdiction technology to its limits) and Bevel Lemelisk was the Human who perfected the final version of the Death Star and designed its Superlaser Plus another Human designed the Galaxy Gun. Plus Humans have designed other innovations as well the X-Wing, A-Wing, and E-wing fighters along with the Victory,Imperial, Defender class Star Destoryers as well as the Executor and Eclipse class Super Star Destroyers were invented and designed by humans. Also the species that the most force-sensitive people are found are Humans and thats not the fault of non-humans at all. Also Sidious was not the only one who was a Xenophobe. The Yevetha who tried to exterminate all species in the Koornracht Cluster (including Humans) Also the Yuuzhan Vong who not only hated Technology but considered all species (Including Humans) as inferior. Also a Human World was destroyed by the Death Star not a non-human one. Yes several non-human worlds have been destroyed Ithor, and Camaas (destroyed by the Bothans) are 2 perfect examples. However you will notice that more Human Worlds or Star Systems have been wiped out by Artificial Means than non-human ones. People also tend to forget that Humans are the most populace in the Galaxy but also when Sidious saw talent even in a non-human he placed them in positions of power. I mean Thrawn was a Chiss yet he became one of Sidious's Grand Admirals (which is the highest rank in the Imperial Military you could reach) Also when the Empire was first founded one of Sidious's most loyal advisers was Mas Amadda and hes wasn't Human. I think that to Sidious's way of thinking since Humans were the most populace species in the Galaxy that humans were better than everyone else. I dont agree with that way of thinking but I can understand why someone like Sidious could think this way. Lets not forget that Sidious also did not place a very high reguard for Women either most women in the Imperial Military never made past the rank of Captain (Fleet) and most never even made it that far. The only high ranking women in Sidious's Empire were Ysanne Isard and she only got her position because she framed her father (and was possibly Sidious's lover but no one found evidence to back this claim) and Admiral Daala.

Edited September 21, 2012 by Kyriosgundam