I don't think its really a secret anymore, but just in case I'll add the spoiler tag.

I don't think its really a secret anymore, but just in case I'll add the spoiler tag.

 

 

Had the final fight with the Emporer last night and I have to say I was disappointed. I had read thread after thread about how this fight was so tough and was looking forward to it. When it came down to it, I basically face rolled it. I'm pretty sure they toned the fight down a while back so I understand it's easier than it was, but this was just silly. I went into at lvl50 which I'm sure helped, and I did manage to interrupt most everything he tried to throw (Watchman spec so I have an interrupt every six seconds) so maybe that was the trick? Not trying to wave around my epeen here, just curious if the regular interrupt was the key or whether they toned the fight WAY, WAY down (like way too far down). I was kinda keyed up for an epic fight and expecting to fail it a couple times. Pretty much a big let-down. Overall though, two big thumbs up for the JK story line.

The adds used to do a lot of damage. You'd have to kite them/use Awe very carefully and take them out one at a time. They brought them way down in damage, and I've heard AOE works on them now.

Umm... I dunno man, Its still pretty tough...

Just did it, and yeah. Took me 10 tries or so. Every time I died it was to his instant death attack.

I've heard AOE works on them now.

Force sweep certainly doesn't. Perhaps cyclone slash does? To be honest I didn't think to try it, since force sweep didn't, and after dieing the first time and reading up, I read AoE's didn't in general.

@op

you're lucky, imagine my disappointment having the whole fight mysteriously skipped at the third attempt.

Just did it, and yeah. Took me 10 tries or so. Every time I died it was to his instant death attack.

 

He wouldn't be so bad if he didn't use his instant death attack WHILE you're trying to run around whacking his clones. Hard enough noticing he's started it amidst the horde, much less successfully managing to target him fast enough to interrupt it. I read somewhere that he summons clones at 100%, 75%, and 50%, which seems about right. However same place also said he starts using the instant death attack at 30%. Unless I was somehow doing so much damage (and I'm tank spec guardian) he dropped past both 50% and 30% with one or two hits, that's wrong, and he starts using it immediately after summoning the final set of clones. Perhaps that's a bug? Fight would be substantially more doable (w/o cheesing) if you didn't have to worry about trying to interrupt him while also dealing with his clones.)

 

Finally had to cheese out and use the pillar LOS way to avoid getting one shotted while taking out the 3rd set of clones. After that just straight up beat him down while interrupting that move. ('course, the first time I tried the LOS cheese, just after getting him 1 on 1 he somehow got stuck IN one of the columns, and when I was trying to get him out he 1-shotted me. 2nd time he actually 1 shotted me w/o channelling that move. (bug, or he has a rarely used alternate 1-shot with no channel?) 3rd time cheesing out and using LOS it worked like clockwork..

 

Sad though, that you almost have to cheese the final boss of the game by exploiting LoS. (and yes, I consider that cheesing)

 

 

 

 

 

Force sweep certainly doesn't. Perhaps cyclone slash does? To be honest I didn't think to try it, since force sweep didn't, and after dieing the first time and reading up, I read AoE's didn't in general.

Force sweep certainly doesn't. Perhaps cyclone slash does? To be honest I didn't think to try it, since force sweep didn't, and after dieing the first time and reading up, I read AoE's didn't in general.

I did this fight last week as a Jedi Sentinel watchman tree, I tried a couple of times first to get the feel of it and happened to record my successful try, see in the spoilers below.

This is my first MMO and I am still clicking but it gives you an idea of what is involved in the fight currently. I felt I needed a few more interrupts at the time.

Force sweep certainly doesn't. Perhaps cyclone slash does? To be honest I didn't think to try it, since force sweep didn't, and after dieing the first time and reading up, I read AoE's didn't in general.

I just attacked the Emperor himself and the adds dropped like flies but then again I'm a Focus Spec sentinel and Sweep can do a serious amount of damage to a mob group. T7 probably killed a few too but I really wasn't paying attention too him.

Right now the key to the whole fight is too interrupt his killer knock back when he's around 30%. You can miss lightning and some of the earlier knock backs but if you miss the big one you're dead.

I am here to say that he can' without a doubt use his one hit wonder without casting or showing a progress bar, UNLESS his Lightning Strike can do about 40% damage on me. I blocked his last one and was waiting axiously for the CD on my interrupt and he cast Lightning Strike, WHILE the strike is in progress, I get thrown half way across the room and I'm dead.

I think thats a Bug... Which I keep running into.... And If its NOT a bug its a serious design flaw....

But then again there is Always the possibility I'm just missing something here, But still It seems like That one part just can't be right.

Just did it, and yeah. Took me 10 tries or so. Every time I died it was to his instant death attack.

 

He wouldn't be so bad if he didn't use his instant death attack WHILE you're trying to run around whacking his clones. Hard enough noticing he's started it amidst the horde, much less successfully managing to target him fast enough to interrupt it. I read somewhere that he summons clones at 100%, 75%, and 50%, which seems about right. However same place also said he starts using the instant death attack at 30%. Unless I was somehow doing so much damage (and I'm tank spec guardian) he dropped past both 50% and 30% with one or two hits, that's wrong, and he starts using it immediately after summoning the final set of clones. Perhaps that's a bug? Fight would be substantially more doable (w/o cheesing) if you didn't have to worry about trying to interrupt him while also dealing with his clones.)

 

Finally had to cheese out and use the pillar LOS way to avoid getting one shotted while taking out the 3rd set of clones. After that just straight up beat him down while interrupting that move. ('course, the first time I tried the LOS cheese, just after getting him 1 on 1 he somehow got stuck IN one of the columns, and when I was trying to get him out he 1-shotted me. 2nd time he actually 1 shotted me w/o channelling that move. (bug, or he has a rarely used alternate 1-shot with no channel?) 3rd time cheesing out and using LOS it worked like clockwork..

 

Sad though, that you almost have to cheese the final boss of the game by exploiting LoS. (and yes, I consider that cheesing)

 

 

 

 

 

Force sweep certainly doesn't. Perhaps cyclone slash does? To be honest I didn't think to try it, since force sweep didn't, and after dieing the first time and reading up, I read AoE's didn't in general.

You didn't use Awe. If you use Awe to stun all the adds+the boss, you can kill the adds without the Boss casting at you.

Also, line of sight, and having health bars on so you can see cast bars and change targets to interrupt.

For everyone: The fact is, if you can't kill this, you're doing it wrong. You aren't using the abilities available to you, and not interrupting the Force Blast. I've done it on a Guardian and a Sentinel now, once pre-nerf (took me 2 hours worth of attempts) and once post-nerf (one shot). Saying that other people are lying or had to overgear the fight is just an excuse to not take the onus on yourself to play better. You may think I'm being rude, but I'm just not sugar coating the truth. The fight is easy.

Turn on Health Bars (Preferences>Nameplates>Nameplates on enemy NPCS)

Use all of your stuns and interrupts available to you. You have 4 base line, and depending on your spec, you can get shorter CDs/more.

If you're trying to brute force the fight, you're doing it wrong. He will one shot you, and it's your fault, not the fights.

You didn't use Awe. If you use Awe to stun all the adds+the boss, you can kill the adds without the Boss casting at you.

 

Also, line of sight, and having health bars on so you can see cast bars and change targets to interrupt.

 

For everyone: The fact is, if you can't kill this, you're doing it wrong. You aren't using the abilities available to you, and not interrupting the Force Blast. I've done it on a Guardian and a Sentinel now, once pre-nerf (took me 2 hours worth of attempts) and once post-nerf (one shot). Saying that other people are lying or had to overgear the fight is just an excuse to not take the onus on yourself to play better. You may think I'm being rude, but I'm just not sugar coating the truth. The fight is easy.

 

Turn on Health Bars (Preferences>Nameplates>Nameplates on enemy NPCS)

 

Use all of your stuns and interrupts available to you. You have 4 base line, and depending on your spec, you can get shorter CDs/more.

 

If you're trying to brute force the fight, you're doing it wrong. He will one shot you, and it's your fault, not the fights.

Agreed its a Solo-able fight... When its working properly... Like I said, The thing thats killing me is, I am using Awe to stun/kill the adds, I am getting him alone, I am "interrupting his fore blast"...and Timing all my Cds so my health stays at above 3/4 the whole time or close to it... But somehow after a successful interrupt on Force Blast, randomly 5 seconds later I fly across the room and die anyway... Which kinda sucks for me... not a problem with the fight itself... but this "Bug" along with the t7 gear bug they have known about for a while according to the forums DOES need to be addressed... That or He has a super secret No cast, no CD kill move that no-one knows about.

I've tried the LoS trick and Died while across the room behind a pillar.... and I've interrupted Force blast up close and personal several times with High Hp, and then just droped dead a few seconds later, and not in the I timed my interrupts poorly and the animations were off sort of way, in the he used his normal attack afterwards, and then i would just die sort of way.

Ok, I took down the Emp today first time out. I'm not bragging. I just want to emphasize that I went in to that fight well prepared. More prepared than any other fight because of the difficulty and because, quite honestly, I needed the class quest to end to move on to end game content.

Here is what worked for me, Sentinel Combat spec.

I hope this helps.

 

 

And so it pretty much played out exactly the way I wanted. Force Leaped on him and ran down the steps. He chased me. I unloaded on him with everything I had given the focus i could generate. T7 pulled aggro which was perfectly timed after I had done significant damage.

 

The first wave of clones showed up and they went directly after T7. Again perfect as I slashed them to bits with out taking damage. BTW slash, that is the key. They have no armor at all as far as I can tell.

 

Out of curiosity, are you sure this is how it started? I'm not questioning your integrity, I am asking because I want to make sure mine isn't broken or something. Every attempt I have done so far, Force Leap is useless because if you leap on him (or get close to him at all for that matter before the encounter starts), he immediately teleports to the bottom of the stairs and at that point the clones are already up before you can get in position.

 

My problem is, in 7 attempts, I have always gotten him below 30% and 1 time within 10%, and then I get whacked. The problem isn't the one hit wonder itself, it's the fact that he can use it without casting, and WHILE he's already casting another ability. I can say without a doubt that it has happened to me twice.

 

Out of curiosity, are you sure this is how it started? I'm not questioning your integrity, I am asking because I want to make sure mine isn't broken or something. Every attempt I have done so far, Force Leap is useless because if you leap on him (or get close to him at all for that matter before the encounter starts), he immediately teleports to the bottom of the stairs and at that point the clones are already up before you can get in position.

 

My problem is, in 7 attempts, I have always gotten him below 30% and 1 time within 10%, and then I get whacked. The problem isn't the one hit wonder itself, it's the fact that he can use it without casting, and WHILE he's already casting another ability. I can say without a doubt that it has happened to me twice.

No problem. I understand. What I should have said is, I force leap on him and run to the bottom of the stairs knowing that he will teleport down there. It seems like he chased me but in point of fact he was already going to be at the bottom of the stairs.

No problem. I understand. What I should have said is, I force leap on him and run to the bottom of the stairs knowing that he will teleport down there. It seems like he chased me but in point of fact he was already going to be at the bottom of the stairs.

Thanks, I wanted to make sure I wasn't glitched after all this time

And thanks for being helpful to others instead of "if you lost you suck" crowd.

I freely admit, I'm not the greatest, but I know how to play the character (Def spec Guardian), and yeah I died the first time (and prob the second time) out of sheer mistakery. However it doesn't alter the fact that he CAN kill you without casting, and it has been reported by several people on these forums, that is an issue that NEEDS to be addressed.