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There is a Maker. Korriban is Saved!

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There is a Maker. Korriban is Saved!

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Irongut
02.25.2014 , 09:29 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by LtGeneralGezlin View Post
How about we wait until next friday when it is on netflix
In what country / region? The Netflix library is very different in UK to what they have in USA.
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Wolfninjajedi
02.25.2014 , 11:31 AM | #32
Just a question bout Netflix since were on that, but is the free trial month really free? I heard it still charges.
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Beniboybling
02.25.2014 , 01:48 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Just a question bout Netflix since were on that, but is the free trial month really free? I heard it still charges.
It's a free trial my friend, its free.

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DarthDymond
02.25.2014 , 01:52 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Just a question bout Netflix since were on that, but is the free trial month really free? I heard it still charges.
Most services like Netflix where there's a "Free Trial" will indeed be free for the designated time-period, BUT will automatically charge the same as they would a normal subscriber as soon as that trial is over.

You just need to actively "Cancel" the account you made before the trial is over to avoid being charged for the first month afterwards (the same as you would have to cancel before the next billing cycle if you're a subscriber to avoid automatically being renewed and charged for the next month).
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Beniboybling
02.25.2014 , 01:55 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDymond View Post
Most services like Netflix where there's a "Free Trial" will indeed be free for the designated time-period, BUT will automatically charge the same as they would a normal subscriber as soon as that trial is over.

You just need to actively "Cancel" the account you made before the trial is over to avoid being charged for the first month afterwards (the same as you would have to cancel before the next billing cycle if you're a subscriber to avoid automatically being renewed and charged for the next month).
Probably this. I've seen other models work in the same way.

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Wolfninjajedi
02.25.2014 , 02:07 PM | #36
Mmmk alright just checking, didn't want any hidden charges! Well then...may do it when the season 6 comes about.
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Girdeux
02.26.2014 , 02:52 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by OldVengeance View Post
I know, I suppose the part I didn't expect was for them to go out of their way to essentially jettison the whole thing all at once.
lol lets be real here. It doesnt exactly help the EU's situation when you have characters like Sion, Nihilus and the Emperor. Its WAY too over the top

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Beniboybling
02.26.2014 , 03:43 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by OldVengeance View Post
Is there going to be a "solution"? I wouldn't expect one to be possible. This could just be them dumping the entire EU altogether.

Without Korriban you can't have the any of the events from the the Hundred Year Darkness to the Great Hyperspace War onto anything up to the New Sith Wars. Which would have to be renamed. Not only would every Sith Lord before Darth Ruin be decanonized, but all the novels and comics surrounding Darth Bane would be too because even though he's part of Lucas' backstory, all the stories about him feature references to Revan and Exar Kun.

But if Morriband is really the "ancient birthplace of the Sith" and at the center of the galaxy like that one other report said, you can't have Korriban.

I suppose it's impossible to predict until the episode comes out but by the Clone Wars retconing one of the oldest and most well established planets in the Expanded Universe, I think this is a sign that the EU is not even slightly respected.
Quote: Originally Posted by Girdeux View Post
This is already well known though. Majority of the higher ups in lucasfilm have already stated the EU isnt canon. Even TCW showrunner Dave Filoni has come out and stated that it isnt canon..It should give you a pretty good indication that Lucasfilm has recently ordered Hasbro to stop making any EU character figures.

The EU fanatics were warned of this a long time ago...so im not sure why they are having a cry now.
I'm not quite sure you guys understand the realities of canon and the EU here. Let me update you.

When something is rendered non-canon, it isn't just labelled non-canon, its erased for continuity. Its pulled of the shelves, its discontinued. Bye bye. You also failed to mention that this game revolves around Korriban as well, which means it would have to be shut down. No more SWTOR. No more MMO. Its non-canon.

But anyway, that's not going to happen, I assume you guys haven't been keeping up with recent developments concerning the EU so I guess you are not aware of the Lucasfilm Story Group that has recently been established.

Basically its a division of Lucasfilm that has been established to manage Star Wars continuity and will determine all future Star Wars canon. But what is important is that they plan to abolish the existing hierachy, no G-Canon, no C-Canon, no "EU is not canon" - everything is going to be canon, the same level of canon as the movies. EU included. It will therefore be their task to sort out all inconsistencies and make the EU are more cohesive unit.

And guess what the Lucasfilm Story Group have recently had a hand in? The latest SWTOR expansion.

SWTOR is safe, Korriban is safe and I expect the long standing and long respected Old Republic era is too.

This idea that the "higher-ups" don't respect or care for the EU is also a bunch of hogwash created by fearmongers and naysayers, in fact the opposite is true, the "higher ups" have a lot of respect for the EU. Especially the team behind the Clone Wars which has taken vast amounts of material from the Expanded Universe to make their episodes. The Moriband issue is a big one, yes, but lets not get our knickers in a twist just yet. Many many planets within Sith Space have been labelled the "homeworld" of the Sith, including Korriban, Ziost and Dromund Kaas.

Yes Korriban has been confirmed as the "official" homeworld, but only by outside sources. Establishing Moriband as an alternate homeworld or the original homeworld would not conflict with EU. Even renaming Korriban with Moriband is do able. The only people who have named it Moriband so far are some ancient spirits probably dating back to the Celestials, who is to say the name has not yet changed? This will be a job for the Story Group. Be patient.

P.S. We are all fans of the EU here, no need to talk about QQing and throwing words like fanatic around...

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Beniboybling
02.26.2014 , 03:53 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Girdeux View Post
lol lets be real here. It doesnt exactly help the EU's situation when you have characters like Sion, Nihilus and the Emperor. Its WAY too over the top
Are these really the reasons why people think retcons happen?

I thought Sion and Nihilus were very well handled for the record, the Sith Emperor not so much.

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Girdeux
02.26.2014 , 04:06 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
[COLOR=#CC9E42]I'm not quite sure you guys understand the realities of canon and the EU here. Let me update you.

When something is rendered non-canon, it isn't just labelled non-canon, its erased for continuity. Its pulled of the shelves, its discontinued. Bye bye. You also failed to mention that this game revolves around Korriban as well, which means it would have to be shut down. No more SWTOR. No more MMO. Its non-canon.

But anyway, that's not going to happen, I assume you guys haven't been keeping up with recent developments concerning the EU so I guess you are not aware of the Lucasfilm Story Group that has recently been established.

Basically its a division of Lucasfilm that has been established to manage Star Wars continuity and will determine all future Star Wars canon. But what is important is that they plan to abolish the existing hierachy, no G-Canon, no C-Canon, no "EU is not canon" - everything is going to be canon, the same level of canon as the movies. EU included. It will therefore be their task to sort out all inconsistencies and make the EU are more cohesive unit.

And guess what the Lucasfilm Story Group have recently had a hand in? The latest SWTOR expansion.

SWTOR is safe, Korriban is safe and I expect the long standing and long respected Old Republic era is too.

This idea that the "higher-ups" don't respect or care for the EU is also a bunch of hogwash created by fearmongers and naysayers, in fact the opposite is true, the "higher ups" have a lot of respect for the EU. Especially the team behind the Clone Wars which has taken vast amounts of material from the Expanded Universe to make their episodes. The Moriband issue is a big one, yes, but lets not get our knickers in a twist just yet. Many many planets within Sith Space have been labelled the "homeworld" of the Sith, including Korriban, Ziost and Dromund Kaas.

Yes Korriban has been confirmed as the "official" homeworld, but only by outside sources. Establishing Moriband as an alternate homeworld or the original homeworld would not conflict with EU. Even renaming Korriban with Moriband is do able. The only people who have named it Moriband so far are some ancient spirits probably dating back to the Celestials, who is to say the name has not yet changed? This will be a job for the Story Group. Be patient.R]
I hope you do realize it was me that linked you to the Story group in the first place, correct? It doesnt matter what the EU states to be the homeworld of what, what is shown in TCW is final as its the real history behind the movies. As TCW follows the vision of Lucas you can watch as anything to do with the Sith species and the Sith organisation before Darth Ruin go up in flames.

Now lets see what Pablo Hidalgo and Dave Filoni thinks as its pretty easy to see what the direction as a whole is going in.

"The EU is a well of ideas, and there's what's on screen. They don't live in the same universe. Everyone wants to think so, I know… We just need to think of it all as a creative collection of fun ideas separate from what George Lucas has made." Dave Filoni"

Now Hidalgo who is apart of the story group.

Pablo Hidalgo: we try! Some just don't want to hear it. Canon is only what's on screen - Episodes I-VI, TCW, and what's to come.

and this latest piece of information about Lucasfilm cancelling anything to do with the EU http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/co...icle&sid=13152