Aowin Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I don't know if anybody else was paying attention during the Star Wars segment of EA's "EA Play," but James Ohlen (Game Director on KotOR 1, DAO, and SWTOR) made a very interesting remark: "...and beyond The Old Republic (presumably the MMO) there are so many stories that we still want to tell." Now, you might think I'm making a huge stretch here. However, remember this video was about Star Wars games "in development," and Ohlen goes out of his way to distinguish these new stories from The Old Republic (TOR). It's also worth noting that it was rumored that BioWare was making a new Star Wars RPG outside of SWTOR. Keep in mind this could very well be possible as BioWare Austin was working on SWTOR and Shadow Realms until the latter game was cancelled. It's very possible they have since moved on to making a new Star Wars RPG (hopefully KotOR 3) especially since Drew Karpyshyn, lead writer on KotOR 1, ME1 & 2, and author of the Revan book, came back to the studio. I think it's more likely BioWare will make a KotOR 3 as they started that franchise of games. However, I suppose it's also possible they look at a new era and make a new single player RPG. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolodome Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Half Life 3 confirmed. It's fun to speculate, but I'm not getting my hopes up for it at this point. If they did though, I do wonder what direction they would take it in, in terms of timeline. I think the most sense would be to make a lead-in to TOR that follows the events of Meetra Surik and Revan with the emperor and all that. But then, of course, they deal with the problem of most of the facts being set in stone already, which kills normal BW twists out of the gate. In my mind, KOTOR 3 would be really hard to get right and very easy to get wrong. Cause if you go by the two prior titles, there's a repeating theme of "person who is really powerful in the force," "memory," etc. Now they could just make up another character who is like Meetra Surik and Revan, but that would probably require a separate timeline and with all of TOR in the way, I imagine that'd be going way past TOR into the distant future. That or doing like a pre-mandalorian-wars story, since that area is foggy enough in terms of lore to my understanding. 'Course then it'd sound funky as a KOTOR 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamtas Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 they haven't touched Darth Bane's story. That could be a cool game. playing from perspective of sith instead of a jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aowin Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 <snip> Yeah, I don't really know what BioWare would do in terms of a story. Perhaps follow Revan's son, who is a child at the end of the book? The other potential issue is the Star Wars Story group seems to want all future games, to my knowledge, to be in line with the new canon. Since the Old Republic Era is no longer canon, it's quite possible BioWare might have to reboot KotOR 1, although I find that unlikely with SWTOR still being in production. Really, the sky is the limit. BioWare could ultimately do anything and just completely ignore the events of the previous two games, much like Mass Effect Andromeda is ignoring the Mass Effect trilogy. While we may not get a KotOR 3 proper, I think there's a very good chance BioWare is making a Star Wars RPG, as it's something fans have been begging for since 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aowin Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 they haven't touched Darth Bane's story. That could be a cool game. playing from perspective of sith instead of a jedi. I don't see that happening for the simple fact that Darth Bane is an established character in the Star Wars universe. More than likely, we'd get to play as a brand new character with the possibility of having a plot twist similar to the one with Revan in KotOR 1. BioWare really likes to give the player control and ownership over the protagonist, so it's very likely whoever we play either has no presence in Star Wars currently is hasn't been explored. Also, as Darth Bane is clearly a Sith Lord, that takes away more player agency for those who might want to pursue the Light Side of the Force. KotOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect, and to a lesser extent Dragon Age all had morality systems in which the player could choose one's moral disposition. I could never see BioWare forcing us to choose one ideology of the Force or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraineAlei Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Yeah, I don't really know what BioWare would do in terms of a story. Perhaps follow Revan's son, who is a child at the end of the book? The other potential issue is the Star Wars Story group seems to want all future games, to my knowledge, to be in line with the new canon. Since the Old Republic Era is no longer canon, it's quite possible BioWare might have to reboot KotOR 1, although I find that unlikely with SWTOR still being in production. I would like to argue that SWTOR (and the KOTOR duo as they stand) could still fall in line with the current canon with a simple handwave of the fact KOTOR takes place at about 4,000-3990 BBY with SWTOR at about 3700 BBY. All teh details of events happen in the game era could be considered by the current era of the movies and Canon as "events we only know a few details here or there about because they happened thousands of years ago, and information has been damaged/lost/destroyed over the thousands of years because of war/disuse/being lost/thieves." Until the games actually completely go against canon instead of washing around with what others once had as canon and no one has fully decided to re-declare as canon (like making Jakuul/whatever it's called explode in 3695 BBY would be against movie canon, but in the now Legends Darth Bane books, Bane took lessons from the holocron/datacron/noetikon left behind by Revan, and Bane showed up the The Clone Wars so we're floating in the grey zone of canon right now) Anyway, back to the topic of KotOR 3, it would be interesting if they made one. Having it set up in the 300 year gap between KOTOR I and II to SWTOR would be nice. Revisit an even more toxic Taris. See more of the Rift Alliance Worlds. The rebuilding Jedi Order under Meetra's allies/students. Losing Noetikon technology (Bastilla Shan was in one, so the tech to add to Noetikons was still around and active three hundred years before SWTOR). It would be fun, but I still suspect that it'll be a major cash grab of a rushed product because Star Wars isn't FIFA/Madden which are EA's main bread and butter despite Star Wars and the other franchises having a very loyal following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuaRya Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Yeah, I don't really know what BioWare would do in terms of a story. Perhaps follow Revan's son, who is a child at the end of the book? The other potential issue is the Star Wars Story group seems to want all future games, to my knowledge, to be in line with the new canon. Since the Old Republic Era is no longer canon. That's not really true. The only thing they claimed was not canon was everything following ROTJ. I think they learned their lesson when changing Korriban into Moriband how easily they can disrupt the fan base. The bottom line is making sure the kids of the Kenner Action figure original trilogy take their kids to see the next installment. If we get alienated by their tinkering we may not offer to take the kids to see the next movie or visit Hollywood Studios when they have the new Star Wars section of the park ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDutchman Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 That's not really true. The only thing they claimed was not canon was everything following ROTJ. I think they learned their lesson when changing Korriban into Moriband how easily they can disrupt the fan base. The bottom line is making sure the kids of the Kenner Action figure original trilogy take their kids to see the next installment. If we get alienated by their tinkering we may not offer to take the kids to see the next movie or visit Hollywood Studios when they have the new Star Wars section of the park ready. They explicitly stated last year when directly asked that the old republic is not canon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorsaLindahl Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I don't know if anybody else was paying attention during the Star Wars segment of EA's "EA Play," but James Ohlen (Game Director on KotOR 1, DAO, and SWTOR) made a very interesting remark: "...and beyond The Old Republic (presumably the MMO) there are so many stories that we still want to tell." Now, you might think I'm making a huge stretch here. However, remember this video was about Star Wars games "in development," and Ohlen goes out of his way to distinguish these new stories from The Old Republic (TOR). It's also worth noting that it was rumored that BioWare was making a new Star Wars RPG outside of SWTOR. Keep in mind this could very well be possible as BioWare Austin was working on SWTOR and Shadow Realms until the latter game was cancelled. It's very possible they have since moved on to making a new Star Wars RPG (hopefully KotOR 3) especially since Drew Karpyshyn, lead writer on KotOR 1, ME1 & 2, and author of the Revan book, came back to the studio. I think it's more likely BioWare will make a KotOR 3 as they started that franchise of games. However, I suppose it's also possible they look at a new era and make a new single player RPG. Any thoughts? He's probably just referencing future expansions and stories beyond what we currently have (the upcoming Season 2, and subsequent seasons). I doubt that they'll do a KoTOR 3. When they announced SWTOR they pretty much said that instead of KoTOR 3 they were doing SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelstonJ Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) I'd imagine if they did KoTOR 3 it'd be in the many, many years between 2 and SWTOR. Or it would be neat to have it tie in to the sith war just before SWTOR that lead to the treaty of Coruscant. Edited June 16, 2016 by GelstonJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adormitul Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Tulak Horde story that would be amazing. From his start as a lowly sith to his kaggath in entire star systems to his grand victories against the jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falensawino Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Kotor3. Great. Now which engine is it going to run on. Visceral Games is working on a Star Wars game Respawn Entertainment is working a Star Wars game according to OP, Bioware Austin is working on another Star Wars game. which engines? Don't forget, what killed SWTOR was HeroEngine. I'm crossing my fingers that Respawn Entertainment's star wars game is going to be on Source Engine just like Titanfall 1 and (i think) Titanfall 2. Edited June 16, 2016 by Falensawino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorsaLindahl Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Now, you might think I'm making a huge stretch here. However, remember this video was about Star Wars games "in development," and Ohlen goes out of his way to distinguish these new stories from The Old Republic (TOR). Yes. Huge stretch. MMO's are always in development. His statement: "...and beyond The Old Republic, there are so many stories that we still want to tell." Does not infer that they're (BW Austin) making a new game. As I said earlier, his statement was more than likely a reference to future material for TOR. according to OP, Bioware Austin is working on another Star Wars game. According to some people we're being observed by aliens and they walk among us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 According to some people we're being observed by aliens and they walk among us. Don't be silly...we're talking about hints of KOTOR 3, everyone knows we're being probed and cross populated by aliens...why else would we all be wearing tinfoil hats? We're all wearing them right? I don't leave my moms basement much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrgames Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Don't be silly...we're talking about hints of KOTOR 3, everyone knows we're being probed and cross populated by aliens...why else would we all be wearing tinfoil hats? We're all wearing them right? I don't leave my moms basement much... W T F Tux? Edited June 16, 2016 by Warrgames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 W T F Tux? Wait...wut? No lol...I meant um...I was kidding....it was a joke...um...brb....phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I'm imagining a KOTOR3 story in the couple hundred years before SWTOR that leads to a new plotline/content in SWTOR. Whatever items/appearances created in KOTOR3 can be made into a CM item in SWTOR. Easy money for BioWare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikinai Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 W T F Tux? Obviously in my absence someone had to fill in with my antics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BipolarJuice Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I could only see a theoretical KotOR3 in: - the three hundred year gap between KotOR2 and TOR - in the 1600 year gap between TOR and Darth Ruin (New Sith Wars) - pre-Mandalorian wars (unlikely, fairly solidly covered) Mind you, with Disney butchering the canon I wouldn't even bother making a game in those time periods unless you got it rubber stamped into the canon, which would mean it wouldn't really be in the existing KotOR continuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrgames Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Obviously in my absence someone had to fill in with my antics No one person could fill in for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrgames Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Wait...wut? No lol...I meant um...I was kidding....it was a joke...um...brb....phone Phone call about your next probing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikinai Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 No one person could fill in for you. Ah, how sweet, I feel like Sally Fields wining the Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knorlac Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Mind you, with Disney butchering the canon I wouldn't even bother making a game in those time periods unless you got it rubber stamped into the canon, which would mean it wouldn't really be in the existing KotOR continuity. That's why I think there will never be a KOTOR3. IMO Disney won't ever greenlight another SW game that doesn't belong to the new canon. There could of course still be a spiritual successor to KOTOR, but set in another timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I could only see a theoretical KotOR3 in: - the three hundred year gap between KotOR2 and TOR - in the 1600 year gap between TOR and Darth Ruin (New Sith Wars) - pre-Mandalorian wars (unlikely, fairly solidly covered) Mind you, with Disney butchering the canon I wouldn't even bother making a game in those time periods unless you got it rubber stamped into the canon, which would mean it wouldn't really be in the existing KotOR continuity. Malachor is canon now after Star Wars Rebels: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/146036/20160331/parts-of-knights-of-the-old-republic-just-became-canon-in-the-star-wars-rebels-season-two-finale.htm I think of TOR as "not yet canon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aowin Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 <snip> I can guarantee you all EA-produced games will be on Frostbite. If BioWare Austin is working on a Star Wars RPG, or even more specifically KotOR 3, they will use the Frostbite engine. This wouldn't be too far out of the realm of reason either as BioWare Austin actually has experience using Frostbite 3 as they created "The Descent" DLC for Dragon Age Inquisition. This very well could have been a test of the engine before BioWare Austin got involved fully in a project built around Frostbite 3. Since Respawn is still an independent studio and not owned by EA, it's unlikely they would have access to Frostbite 3. Then again, EA is giving Respawn the right to make a Star Wars game, so it could very well be possible. The Visceral game and certainly the BioWare game, if it exists, will be on Frostbite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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