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So, about skipping Kotfe-Kotet..

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So, about skipping Kotfe-Kotet..

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Kiesu
09.10.2018 , 10:45 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by FlameYOL View Post
Maybe something like the Lana marriage bug? A token that boosts a character to a level or creates a new one then you go to your ship, odessen, somewhere and go through a history review where you can chance your choices? At least this way it would feel more immersive, I guess. Your idea isn't bad either though.
I guess. Though clicking trough tens of hours of story decision trough a dialog tree would take a ton more time than just clicking a few boxes. The Lanabot was nice, but I'd probably get frustrated clicking trough that dialog for 30 minutes strait with no easy option to go back and fix choices you miss-remembered.
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09.10.2018 , 11:12 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthCasus View Post
Having to run all through Kotfe to reconnect with Kaliyo (9 chapters!) to realize the romance trigger didn't work at all was.. something. And that's just on my 4th OG toon running through this hot trash.

Sorry about rambling but is it possible to get some sort of Mass Effect/Dragon Age Origin/Tapestry for these two expansions? Having it the way it currently is heavily discourages alting if you care even the slightest about certain classes (since reunions are arguably the best parts of these things) but you have to slog until reaching certain points.
Kaliyo's romance is only available to the male imperial agent who romanced her during vanilla. Anyone else would just get a random flirt.

Also, if you skip all the cinematic cut scenes the chapters are relatively short. Some only break down to 10 minutes or so.

Personally, I would like to skip the Iokath/Umbara/Copero/Nathema stories if possible. Unless it affects future expansions. I can only take Theron's betrayal/under cover stuff so many times. And if my character's aren't romancing him or Lana then I don't really care about running them. I don't want to find out that if I start the new stories that certain choices will be set. For example, if you boost an imperial character to 65 Koth has split because it automatically checks off choices to scare him off. So it would bother me if that happened and I find out I don't have Theron as a companion because it pre-selected my choices on an imperial character to leave him on Nathema.
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09.10.2018 , 11:23 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Mournblood View Post
This would also be perfect for the level cap tokens (Master's Datacron). I discovered too late that when creating an alt to level cap with the token, it locks you out of all romance options and other character defining choices. It almost felt like a punishment for wanting to save myself a ton of time levelling a new toon up from 1 to 70. Had I known this beforehand, I probably wouldn't have spent the CC and would have just asked my wife level up the toon (unlike me, she loves levelling toons, and has 16 characters compared to my 5).
Are you sure about this? Or are you referring to the outlander token that takes you to 65? The Master's Datacron leaves all story content intact and only levels the toon to 70 without advancing anything else.

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DarthCasus
09.10.2018 , 11:37 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Swingkittie View Post
Kaliyo's romance is only available to the male imperial agent who romanced her during vanilla. Anyone else would just get a random flirt.
I'm well aware, still didn't get it. Didn't romance Temple either, since romancing both was possible for a long time.

Quote: Originally Posted by Swingkittie View Post
Also, if you skip all the cinematic cut scenes the chapters are relatively short. Some only break down to 10 minutes or so.
It's not the cinematics that are long, its the tedious non-stealth-friendly droves on weak enemies that march down your throat each chapter. Never mind the palace ball chapter with Vaylin, turning OFF my sprint.

Quote: Originally Posted by Swingkittie View Post
Personally, I would like to skip the Iokath/Umbara/Copero/Nathema stories if possible. Unless it affects future expansions. I can only take Theron's betrayal/under cover stuff so many times. And if my character's aren't romancing him or Lana then I don't really care about running them. I don't want to find out that if I start the new stories that certain choices will be set. For example, if you boost an imperial character to 65 Koth has split because it automatically checks off choices to scare him off. So it would bother me if that happened and I find out I don't have Theron as a companion because it pre-selected my choices on an imperial character to leave him on Nathema.
See? There's some portions you'd want to skip yourself. They just happen to be much shorter than 2 entire expansions but we're on the same page here Boggles the mind as to why this hasn't been implemented yet, though.
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09.10.2018 , 11:51 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by kodrac View Post
I've been wanting that ever since 4.0 and the new level 60 characters. Why create a character that assumes all previous choices and locks you out content as a result? Such a waste.
Um. I created an insta60 (using the free token) when KotFE was released so I could run through the story and see how it worked, a sort of dry run. Good thing I did, because I mis-read "the" dialogue wheel in the Chapter IX cantina, and locked the poor sod out of being able to romance his girlfriend Lana. So when my at-the-time main Commandogirl Kylath went through and dumped her plan to reunite with Theron(1), she was able to continue locking lips with Lana during the rest of the story, because I knew how the thing worked.

So, not a waste. Not at all.

(1) See http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...81#post8697281 for why the plan ended up in a campfire.
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09.10.2018 , 11:56 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Kiesu View Post
The "default" world state might as well be checked by default in the list then, so no modifications needs to be made for those who don't care.

Or don't even display the list when performing a skip, just have a popup:
→ "Are you sure you want to skip X? [Yes] [No] [Edit]"
And the edit option would take you to the checklist. That wouldn't be too intrusive, right?
And at some point you will cry because you can not play the story anymore. I only say 65's token. Then you shout aloud after that you can catch up on the story again.
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IoNonSoEVero
09.10.2018 , 12:10 PM | #17
I think the pre-set choices are the issue, and it would be nice to give people a couple of checkboxes to pick their direction if they use a 60 or 65 token or the L 70 boost.

I actually like KOTFE and KOTET a lot but there are parts of each expac that do make me groan when it comes time to replay them with alts. The walker sections never stop being awful for me. Every time I have to do those Kaliyo and GEMINI ship chapters they are less fun, and they weren't fun to begin with. So I can understand the appeal of not wanting to run KOTFE/ET on one's 10th or 20th alt.

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kodrac
09.10.2018 , 12:22 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by SteveTheCynic View Post
So, not a waste. Not at all.
Your personal RP anecdote aside, the aforementioned waste is being locked out of playing everything prior to level 60 and having no choice in the advanced character's background you're creating. Whereas having a world state editor available would alleviate that.
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Id find it hard to believe this sort of thing goes on in the preferential treatment forum.

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09.10.2018 , 01:01 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by kodrac View Post
Your personal RP anecdote aside, the aforementioned waste is being locked out of playing everything prior to level 60 and having no choice in the advanced character's background you're creating. Whereas having a world state editor available would alleviate that.
...... then you should let the game be completely. If you can create a char and even mark the romances etc. Why then play? I'm in favor of skipping Kotfe + Kotet. But then people should also live with what is given to them.
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09.10.2018 , 01:05 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Batwer View Post
And at some point you will cry because you can not play the story anymore. I only say 65's token. Then you shout aloud after that you can catch up on the story again.
Oh trust me. I got like 60 characters. I'm perfectly fine skipping story on half of them. I don't need to experience all the stories that many times again and again :P
If I do, I'll make another character. I'm good at making characters.
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