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When Can We Test 6.0 Combat, etc.

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When Can We Test 6.0 Combat, etc.
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olagatonjedi
07.12.2019 , 04:43 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by fushnchips View Post
Eric 6.0 should have been in the testing phases 2 months ago it's sad to see decisions like this that will impact quality control in a huge way with bugs that may take months to fix I hope Bioware could learn from mistakes of the past but they seem to be lurking again and I really want 6.0 to do very well.
So are you saying they shouldve told you itll be available in 2 months from now?

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Delani
07.12.2019 , 04:53 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by KTap View Post
At this point they should delay 6.0, there's not enough time left for everything they're trying to do and releasing the expansion in a bad state will do more harm than good.
They did have 3 years to work on 6.0, I wouldnt worry too much

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DzastinBiberi
07.12.2019 , 06:46 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Delani View Post
They did have 3 years to work on 6.0, I wouldnt worry too much
But did they work on 6.0 these past 3 years?

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TrixxieTriss
07.12.2019 , 08:36 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey there,

Let me add some clarity to our PTS schedule and then I can let you know the current plan for getting hands-on with PTS. So, when we initially talked about when PTS would be available I don't think we framed it very well. When we stated June, we didn't necessarily mean playable in June, but that would we would be providing you with in-depth information where you could start providing feedback. Throughout the whole PTS process there are going to be two components:
  1. Giving you the details on the PTS forum so that you can provide your thoughts and feedback.
  2. Placing those same things as playable on PTS to get your hands-on feedback.
Obviously we are at step 1 of that process right now but we definitely understand that you are all very eager to get your hands on Onslaught. Tentatively, we are aiming to have the initial version of PTS up next week. This PTS will contain the information which we have revealed to you on the PTS forum up to this point, so, tacticals, set bonuses, and the new abilities of:
  • Sith Inquisitor
  • Sith Warrior
  • Sorcerer
  • Assassin
  • Juggernaut
  • Marauder
Keep in mind that next week is tentative and could change. We will have a blog to coincide with the launch of PTS to give you all of the details.

Thanks!

-eric
You know any feed back we give you on this forum with out testing is all hypothetical?

It would be better if you just dump the classes on the PTS in what ever form they are at the moment. Bugs and all and let’s us test what you’ve done so we can give you real feed back.

Even if you just drop Alpha versions of the changes for us to test. Then you can move onto the beta with some better player feed back before a prelaunch test.
This is how I’ve done Alpha and beta testing in other games in the last 25 years.

At the moment, it feels like you are just finalising the changes and we will be stuck with them, warts and all. There is no point of the PTS if you don’t have time to change anything.

Please, don’t delay another week. Dump what you’ve got so we can test the combat changes. No one here is asking to test onslaught content.

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TrixxieTriss
07.12.2019 , 08:41 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by KTap View Post
At this point they should delay 6.0, there's not enough time left for everything they're trying to do and releasing the expansion in a bad state will do more harm than good.
I’m also really concerned about this. The PTS testing isn’t going to be long enough for any significant changes. All we’ll be doing is knocking rough edges. It will be a prelauch test and nothing significant will be able to be changed.
Which isn’t what they promised or gave us the impression they were doing this time.

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Delani
07.13.2019 , 12:05 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
I’m also really concerned about this. The PTS testing isn’t going to be long enough for any significant changes. All we’ll be doing is knocking rough edges. It will be a prelauch test and nothing significant will be able to be changed.
Which isn’t what they promised or gave us the impression they were doing this time.
Changing the numbers from 25% to 35% and such should take long lol. I would hope not alteast.

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Celise
07.13.2019 , 12:37 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by DzastinBiberi View Post
But did they work on 6.0 these past 3 years?
The last year or two? probably, but at a reduced number because of Anthem. the chances are a good number of BW employees were taken off other projects to be put on Anthem in 2017-2018, so it can be launched before this years market first quarter. i'm guessing some point in the middle of 2018 is when some of those employees returned to SWTOR to pick up the time table after just over 3 years and a bit from KotET to this one.

Most likely KotET and the traitor arc were done in advance of KotET's launch and when BW said they were hearing what the players wanted after that, they moved on to Ossus and this daily on Dantooine and probably had onslaught in the works around the time of KotET's launch, at least initially before a lot of the employees were routed to Anthem for a bit.

All that is just a guess though.

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KTap
07.13.2019 , 12:52 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Delani View Post
They did have 3 years to work on 6.0, I wouldnt worry too much
Why not? They are making huge class balance decisions, and there's going to be very little time to test them, let alone make any changes and retest them. Some of the tacticals they've released so far have me worried.

Then there's the multitude of bugs that will be introduced, and whatever other problems that will come up with this big of an update.

I want to play it ASAP, but I would rather they took the time and released it in a good state, instead of another botched release.
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MandFlurry
07.13.2019 , 01:25 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey there,

Let me add some clarity to our PTS schedule and then I can let you know the current plan for getting hands-on with PTS. So, when we initially talked about when PTS would be available I don't think we framed it very well. When we stated June, we didn't necessarily mean playable in June, but that would we would be providing you with in-depth information where you could start providing feedback. Throughout the whole PTS process there are going to be two components:
  1. Giving you the details on the PTS forum so that you can provide your thoughts and feedback.
  2. Placing those same things as playable on PTS to get your hands-on feedback.
Obviously we are at step 1 of that process right now but we definitely understand that you are all very eager to get your hands on Onslaught. Tentatively, we are aiming to have the initial version of PTS up next week. This PTS will contain the information which we have revealed to you on the PTS forum up to this point, so, tacticals, set bonuses, and the new abilities of:
  • Sith Inquisitor
  • Sith Warrior
  • Sorcerer
  • Assassin
  • Juggernaut
  • Marauder
Keep in mind that next week is tentative and could change. We will have a blog to coincide with the launch of PTS to give you all of the details.

Thanks!

-eric
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Delani
07.13.2019 , 07:48 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Celise View Post
The last year or two? probably, but at a reduced number because of Anthem. the chances are a good number of BW employees were taken off other projects to be put on Anthem in 2017-2018, so it can be launched before this years market first quarter. i'm guessing some point in the middle of 2018 is when some of those employees returned to SWTOR to pick up the time table after just over 3 years and a bit from KotET to this one.

Most likely KotET and the traitor arc were done in advance of KotET's launch and when BW said they were hearing what the players wanted after that, they moved on to Ossus and this daily on Dantooine and probably had onslaught in the works around the time of KotET's launch, at least initially before a lot of the employees were routed to Anthem for a bit.

All that is just a guess though.
Yea thats how it works, they usually work on stuff years before its released.