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Aurbere
11.09.2013 , 06:48 PM | #261
Quote: Originally Posted by sell-dog View Post
Yes please.

How about: Exar Kun & Ulic Qel-Droma vs Darth Vader & Dark Apprentice (ie Galen Marek clone in TFU II)?!?!?!
Dark Apprentice? Not much information on him. Perhaps pre-betrayal Galen Marek?
Added Chapter 29 to The Shadows Fall
"My ultimate goal is the secret of life-that life that gives us consciousness, for without consciousness each of us is nothing. Through science, i will create new life and sustain my own. There is no reason Darth Plagueis could not live forever."

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XSUPREMESKILLZX
11.09.2013 , 11:03 PM | #262
I have a question: Are the force abilities it says Nihilus possesses in the KOTOR campaign guide canon?

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sell-dog
11.10.2013 , 02:13 PM | #263
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Dark Apprentice? Not much information on him. Perhaps pre-betrayal Galen Marek?
I mentioned Dark Apprentice aka TFU II main guy and thought of the idea from Jensaari's newest (and coolest) video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qj4hyQxbTs

I don't know how much of Jensaari's assessment is from the novel and how much from the game.

I think a prime Marek & Vader would defeat Kun & Ulic but I personally forget how much more powerful Marek becomes after the betrayal. I know a pre-batrayal Marek defeats Shaak Ti among others which is quite impressive. Obviously post-betrayal defeats Vader but I forget how much his power grows in that time period ie could he have defeated Vader when he defeated Ti?

Either case I think it will be an awesome match up!
"What's the difference between hot and cold doughnuts?"
"The difference is: cold ones I can eat 8, hot ones I can eat 48!"

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Aurbere
11.10.2013 , 03:13 PM | #264
Quote: Originally Posted by sell-dog View Post
I mentioned Dark Apprentice aka TFU II main guy and thought of the idea from Jensaari's newest (and coolest) video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qj4hyQxbTs

I don't know how much of Jensaari's assessment is from the novel and how much from the game.

I think a prime Marek & Vader would defeat Kun & Ulic but I personally forget how much more powerful Marek becomes after the betrayal. I know a pre-batrayal Marek defeats Shaak Ti among others which is quite impressive. Obviously post-betrayal defeats Vader but I forget how much his power grows in that time period ie could he have defeated Vader when he defeated Ti?

Either case I think it will be an awesome match up!
Ah, I thought you meant the Dark Apprentice from the TFU II DLC.

Either way, I think I would rather go with Galen Marek, simply because he would work better with Vader.
Added Chapter 29 to The Shadows Fall
"My ultimate goal is the secret of life-that life that gives us consciousness, for without consciousness each of us is nothing. Through science, i will create new life and sustain my own. There is no reason Darth Plagueis could not live forever."

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sell-dog
11.10.2013 , 03:37 PM | #265
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Ah, I thought you meant the Dark Apprentice from the TFU II DLC.

Either way, I think I would rather go with Galen Marek, simply because he would work better with Vader.
Oh I agree Galen Marek would work better with Vader. My concern (which obviously is debatable) is that Vader & Marek would be the clear odds-on favorite
"What's the difference between hot and cold doughnuts?"
"The difference is: cold ones I can eat 8, hot ones I can eat 48!"

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Aurbere
11.10.2013 , 03:59 PM | #266
Quote: Originally Posted by sell-dog View Post
Oh I agree Galen Marek would work better with Vader. My concern (which obviously is debatable) is that Vader & Marek would be the clear odds-on favorite
Hmm. Perhaps.
Added Chapter 29 to The Shadows Fall
"My ultimate goal is the secret of life-that life that gives us consciousness, for without consciousness each of us is nothing. Through science, i will create new life and sustain my own. There is no reason Darth Plagueis could not live forever."

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LadyKulvax
11.11.2013 , 12:43 PM | #267
I think Vader and Marek would beat almost any team, they would be a pretty OP choice for a 2 vs 2.

My 2 vs 2 suggestion is:

Anakin Skywalker & Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Bane & Darth Zannah.
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Aurbere
11.11.2013 , 12:47 PM | #268
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
I think Vader and Marek would beat almost any team, they would be a pretty OP choice for a 2 vs 2.

My 2 vs 2 suggestion is:

Anakin Skywalker & Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Bane & Darth Zannah.
I was thinking of Kenobi and Skywalker as well.
Added Chapter 29 to The Shadows Fall
"My ultimate goal is the secret of life-that life that gives us consciousness, for without consciousness each of us is nothing. Through science, i will create new life and sustain my own. There is no reason Darth Plagueis could not live forever."

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sell-dog
11.11.2013 , 01:29 PM | #269
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post

My 2 vs 2 suggestion is:

Anakin Skywalker & Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Bane & Darth Zannah.
I like this!!!
"What's the difference between hot and cold doughnuts?"
"The difference is: cold ones I can eat 8, hot ones I can eat 48!"

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Beniboybling
11.19.2013 , 03:25 AM | #270
Now that the first round of the BattleZone is over I'd like to make a request, or rather suggest a rule change. Namely a redaction of the rule that handicaps characters with certain deficiencies I feel are unreasonable i.e. Traya's missing hand and Darth Plagueis respirator. Now I realise the reasoning behind this, but let be explain my position:

Namely I feel these handicaps are a little arbitrary, this isn't "at the height of their power" but "almost before they die but not before they become horribly mutilated" - we have not decided to lop of Dooku's hands, or destroy Vader's suit, and for good reason. Nor do I feel we should chop of Traya's hand (and why not the other one?) and have Plagueis were a respirator for the same reason, because it means we are not considering all these characters at the same level of ability. I don't feel Darth Traya minus a hand is her at the height of her power, nor is it for Plagueis.

Now like I said I understand (or at least assume) your reasoning behind this, you want to introduce handicaps to make the battles realistic, but I feel the effect is the opposite. It would be a shame to see Traya defeated in the say the next round because she was missing an appendage (which almost happened against Bane) when if it were Traya prior to that dismemberment she may very well have won - I don't feel that's accurate.

That said redacting this rule wouldn't take handicaps out of the game altogether, these characters have all acquired various handicaps and weaknesses as they progress towards power. Traya grew old and weak, Vader was encumbered by his suit, Ulic Qel Droma had an injury in his abdomen etc. etc. But there comes a point where you reach your peak and then start coming down, start losing limbs, heads etc.

Anyway I think I've made by point and its completely up to you on what decision to make. But I'd ask you to consider it, because overall I feel it would make the BattleZone more accurate in its outcome.

P.S. Yes I am biased, but at least I have an argument.