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The REAL Most Powerful Jedi


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LadyKulvax
07.16.2013 , 04:45 PM | #941
Quote: Originally Posted by ArenCordial View Post
Figure of speech. Marek spent very little time after that escape living though he most certainly cast his lot in with the Rebels. Still I don't see how you can't count Anakin then, it may have been a last minute reversal but he did fulfill the Jedi Prophecy and destroy the Sith. That's not counting the 13 or so years he was an active member in the Order. Anakin ultimately died a Jedi.

If we count Marek, Anakin should as well.
Exactly the moment Anakin turns he gets fried by Sidious, regardless this is for Beni to decide not me.

On Marek the novel(novel>game in canon) says otherwise they talk a LOT and Marek actively agrees to being Jedi.
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Beniboybling
07.16.2013 , 04:47 PM | #942
Quote: Originally Posted by ArenCordial View Post
Figure of speech. Marek spent very little time after that escape living and even less time with Kota to be able to learn much, though he most certainly cast his lot in with the Rebels. Still I don't see how you can't count Anakin then, it may have been a last minute reversal but he did fulfill the Jedi Prophecy and destroy the Sith. That's not counting the 13 or so years he was an active member in the Order. Anakin ultimately died a Jedi.

If we count Marek, Anakin should as well.
Anakin's height of power was as Vader, he therefore does not qualify. I'm afraid this is not open to debate.

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ArenCordial
07.16.2013 , 04:48 PM | #943
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
Exactly the moment Anakin turns he gets fried by Sidious, regardless this is for Beni to decide not me.

On Marek the novel(novel>game in canon) says otherwise they talk a LOT and Marek actively agrees to being Jedi.
Ah ok. Like I said I had not read the TFU novel, so that helps. Thank you.

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marcelo_sdk
07.16.2013 , 06:37 PM | #944
Since the beggining, I think Marek should be considered a Jedi. For me, he could enter to this list.

Regarding Jaina vs. Windu, as I already said, I go for Windu. His abilities are much more refined, and Jaina never did anything that matched Windu's skills.

And I think it's almost consensus Satele > Saba, think you can change that too Beni.
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tunewalker
07.17.2013 , 01:20 AM | #945
Quote: Originally Posted by marcelo_sdk View Post
Since the beggining, I think Marek should be considered a Jedi. For me, he could enter to this list.

Regarding Jaina vs. Windu, as I already said, I go for Windu. His abilities are much more refined, and Jaina never did anything that matched Windu's skills.

And I think it's almost consensus Satele > Saba, think you can change that too Beni.
I disagree we have to look she did kill Caedus with her own power in a one on one fight we have put her above darth vader in power and I would never believe that of Windu.

As for the Saba vs Satele people seem to be agreeing for little to no reason given other then opinion is this going to be a vote thread now? or are we actually going to compare. I left it alone last time because I was tired of argueing but I think I see a character getting the shaft after 300+ posts of arguments that earned her what she got.

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Beniboybling
07.17.2013 , 07:33 AM | #946
I'm still not convinced that Galen Marek is a Jedi, he may have received some training from Rahm Kota but is was informal, and he was never bestowed with the title of Jedi. He is as much a Jedi as Cade Skywalker is in all honesty.

And concerning Saba vs Satele. As a brief comparison I'd say Saba's healing abilities/Force valor outclass Satele's skills with tutaminis, as does her ability to almost sense Darth Caedus surpass Satele's abilities in foresight. The only edge Satele would get is in Alter, though I would say that is inconclusive.

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ArenCordial
07.17.2013 , 07:44 AM | #947
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
I'm still not convinced that Galen Marek is a Jedi, he may have received some training from Rahm Kota but is was informal, and he was never bestowed with the title of Jedi. He is as much a Jedi as Cade Skywalker is in all honesty.

And concerning Saba vs Satele. As a brief comparison I'd say Saba's healing abilities/Force valor outclass Satele's skills with tutaminis, as does her ability to almost sense Darth Caedus surpass Satele's abilities in foresight. The only edge Satele would get is in Alter, though I would say that is inconclusive.
Obi-Wan Kenobi sensed the Phantom Meance (Sidious) as a padawan. Sometimes you get lucky and get to pierce the veil. I still don't see why she's on this list. She's a powerful master, but not a legendary one. What am I missing that you guys are seeing?

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Selenial
07.17.2013 , 07:56 AM | #948
Galen Marek was a Jedi at his "Death." He deserves to be a contender for this list, Imo
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Beniboybling
07.17.2013 , 08:07 AM | #949
Quote: Originally Posted by ArenCordial View Post
Obi-Wan Kenobi sensed the Phantom Meance (Sidious) as a padawan. Sometimes you get lucky and get to pierce the veil. I still don't see why she's on this list. She's a powerful master, but not a legendary one. What am I missing that you guys are seeing?
This wasn't a case of luck. Caedus himself was afraid that Saba, due to her legendary powers in sense, would be able to see through his veil - yet had no worries concerning Luke Skywalker or any other Jedi present. I feel that outweighs or at least matches Satele's ability in Foresight.

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ArenCordial
07.17.2013 , 08:10 AM | #950
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Galen Marek was a Jedi at his "Death." He deserves to be a contender for this list, Imo
If he actually in the books spent time in apprenticeship with Kota I don't see why not. My only real objection was the game made him seen like a fallen sith, but apparently this is different in the books so I agree Marek probably ought to make the list.