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Krewel
07.01.2013 , 05:32 AM | #131
It's quite transparent that these new FPs were originally made as ONE FP, I really don't know who they're fooling with this artificial extension. The transition between them doesn't even make any sense, it's obvious that Vigilant is the last boss, but the first FP ends abruptly like the final Sopranos episode or something.
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Sohaim
07.01.2013 , 05:53 AM | #132
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Well, they took me 20 minutes each with 3 other players on PTS (Story Mode). We were all in Arkanian gear. I found it quite nice and fluent.

And the role neutral story mode simply mean that group finder does not look for the classic party composition (tank, heal, 2 DPS), but is willing to load you in it with any group composition. There are kolto stations around each boss, which heal all players for 3k per click, I think, and the bosses do to hit that much

As for the demand to join it and make it like LI, devs specifically said that they will not do another LI, because they made it too hard. I could imagine it being joined together, but the difficulty is fine.
WHAT? Devs said that we would never see another FP like LI, where, when? omg you serious? if this is true i am freaking sad, at least put those two back together and call Titans Of Industry NiM mode, first FP of NiM dificulty, we dont need another FP just to stomp and farm gear, cmon a little challenge is not bad.

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Sohaim
07.01.2013 , 05:56 AM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by Krewel View Post
It's quite transparent that these new FPs were originally made as ONE FP, I really don't know who they're fooling with this artificial extension. The transition between them doesn't even make any sense, it's obvious that Vigilant is the last boss, but the first FP ends abruptly like the final Sopranos episode or something.
Of course the transition does not make sense, people go in the facility and then they feel the need to go out to have cofee lol?, i just want a new challenging FP, leave it like that for other people, call it Cerka: TItans Of industry NiM mode or whatever but put them back together, tune it up for 69s with augs, so we have something to do for an hour.

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Aries_cz
07.01.2013 , 07:58 AM | #134
I think it was said in the last livestream interview, cantina tour or something like that, that simply too many people complained how hard LI was, and so that all new flashpoints will be on approximately the same level as the old ones (scaled to level, of course). If you want something geared for 69 with augs, try Operations.

Yes, they are split in way to artificial means, but I liked that it is shorter. If I simply want to run a quick flashpoint, I can now. But, I would not be unhappy if they were merged together.
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LordArtemis
07.01.2013 , 08:04 AM | #135
Well, I don't know. I think it's filled with non-CM goodness. Sure, perhaps it's not perfect nor includes everything everyone wanted (still not enough love for PVP folks IMO) it is certainly better for the anti-CM folks I would expect.

...of which I am not one of those folks btw...I'm happy with CM content for the most part when it is released.

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Sohaim
07.01.2013 , 08:05 AM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz View Post
I think it was said in the last livestream interview, cantina tour or something like that, that simply too many people complained how hard LI was, and so that all new flashpoints will be on approximately the same level as the old ones (scaled to level, of course). If you want something geared for 69 with augs, try Operations.

Yes, they are split in way to artificial means, but I liked that it is shorter. If I simply want to run a quick flashpoint, I can now. But, I would not be unhappy if they were merged together.
that makes me sad, and men whats the problem with having Flashpoints for 69s? operations takes more then 1h, nothing wrong with having a Hard FP tuned for 69s for 4 people to enjoy, i see a lot of people asking for NiM mode for Flashpoints, also i found the conversations(droid giver is on the GTN, the actual guy is on the Gav daragon close to SnV) that send you into the Flashpoint, they are still to be edited i think, since it gives you the quest "Titans Of Industry".

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07.01.2013 , 08:18 AM | #137
Speaking of hot. It's been too hot lately in California the last couple of days.
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Aries_cz
07.01.2013 , 08:20 AM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by Sohaim View Post
that makes me sad, and men whats the problem with having Flashpoints for 69s? operations takes more then 1h, nothing wrong with having a Hard FP tuned for 69s for 4 people to enjoy, i see a lot of people asking for NiM mode for Flashpoints, also i found the conversations(droid giver is on the GTN, the actual guy is on the Gav daragon close to SnV) that send you into the Flashpoint, they are still to be edited i think, since it gives you the quest "Titans Of Industry".
The problem is many people not wanting them, that is all.
As for the droid giver, this is just like Operations, the does not give the exact name of the quest. You always get something like "Betrayal at Denova", "Legions of Scum and Villainy", etc.
Also, just wondering, what stops you from running them in sequence? Just ask your GF band if they want to run both of them, and you can go straght after you jump out the first one, just reenter queue with only the second one selected...
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Sohaim
07.01.2013 , 08:40 AM | #139
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The problem is many people not wanting them, that is all.
As for the droid giver, this is just like Operations, the does not give the exact name of the quest. You always get something like "Betrayal at Denova", "Legions of Scum and Villainy", etc.
Also, just wondering, what stops you from running them in sequence? Just ask your GF band if they want to run both of them, and you can go straght after you jump out the first one, just reenter queue with only the second one selected...
its both the Droid and the actual quest that you need to complete, and those are operations, Betrayal at Denova is just the intro no? when you talk to saresh it changes to Explosive Conflict no?my point is, this was One Flashpoint as intended, i just ran it again with some casual people, they all agreed that its too freaking short,its like doing Taral V skipping all bosses, and who is these people that would not want it?? also its a option, if some people liked this, leave this, but make a "NiM Titans of Industry" mode where its aimed to 69s and the FP stays whole, and not split into two, everyone stays happy, people who are alredy geared will want to play this, or at least put em back together, its really too short, but well thats just my opnion, i can see that you liked it this way, i just hope that they dont do this to Imperial Warlod, but now i find it hard that they will not.

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Aries_cz
07.01.2013 , 08:57 AM | #140
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its both the Droid and the actual quest that you need to complete, and those are operations, Betrayal at Denova is just the intro no? when you talk to saresh it changes to Explosive Conflict no?my point is, this was One Flashpoint as intended, i just ran it again with some casual people, they all agreed that its too freaking short,its like doing Taral V skipping all bosses, and who is these people that would not want it?? also its a option, if some people liked this, leave this, but make a "NiM Titans of Industry" mode where its aimed to 69s and the FP stays whole, and not split into two, everyone stays happy, people who are alredy geared will want to play this, or at least put em back together, its really too short, but well thats just my opnion, i can see that you liked it this way, i just hope that they dont do this to Imperial Warlod, but now i find it hard that they will not.
I think it is the intro, completing the Operation, and debriefing.
I do agree that it would be nice, but there is always having to weight costs against probable outcome. If you spent months of developer time and QA on making NiM flashpoint, which only 10% of people would enjoy and which would not bring any new gear level like NiM Ops, it would probably be waste of said developer time and QA, which could be used on other content.
And I would suggest to stop reading those Patch Notes leaks , they are very old and simply should not be used for reference or even for claiming you were "lied to" (not saying you do that)
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