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Why was TCW cancelled?


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Beniboybling
05.22.2013 , 11:50 AM | #1
I'm perplexed. Originally I thought Disney cancelled The Clone Wars because they wished to refocusing the franchise's attention on the upcoming movies. But with the announcement of Star Wars: Rebels this no longer fits.

It is obvious that Disney are not short of hands or talent, and have no need to move the TCW team to working on the movies - this is evident as more or less the same team is now working on the new animated series. If anything it will take more effort and cost in the form of advertising, finding actors etc.

Its also clear that Disney did not make this move in order to capitalize on the hype that the movies will bring. TCW would not have done this as it would likely have come to an end around the same time the movie was released. Star Wars: Rebels however will air in Fall 2014 whereas Episode 7 will be released the following year. So Rebels will not capitalize on the hype either, and will draw in no more viewers that TCW already had.

So what's the real reason behind this? Do Disney simply think that this new era will be more popular?

Right now the only reason I can come up with for cancelling a perfectly good and successful series and replacing it with another (made by the same people) is to have an animated series on their own Disney Channel. To be this just seems petty, and I hope its not the case. But I didn't come here to rant (OK maybe I did ) - I want to now why you think TCW was cancelled, and do you think its justified?

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05.22.2013 , 11:54 AM | #2
I kinda figured, its more to explore a time that is relatively unexplored save for some comics and novels behind it. I mean with Clone Wars, there is already so much and while TCW added in some new things...we are still seeing clones, jedi and droids, something which has been seen thousands of times. Whereas we never have seen anything involving the Rebel Alliance or Galactic Empire, Rebels and Stormtroopers outside of the 3 OT movies, comics and novels.

Now we are gonna see stuff involving Rebels and Stormtroopers, perhaps giving them some importance...showing that Stormtroopers are indeed elite of the elite, give them faces and names, show the tactics of the Rebels. Explore things.
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05.22.2013 , 11:57 AM | #3
Could be the toys stopped selling as well....(they say it was why Green Lantern and Young Justice kicked the bucket, too). Could be the writers ran out of ideas, could be anything, really. Not much to do, except for buying all of the seasons on DVD, looking out for the remaining episodes, and hoping Rebels is a good show.
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05.22.2013 , 01:26 PM | #4
Disney didn't want to share with CN.

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05.22.2013 , 01:38 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Eillack View Post
Disney didn't want to share with CN.
This is probably but is very likely only a part of what happened. As good as the show was, the era was heavily saturated. It was definitely time to start wrapping things up and to move on. They could also have plans for some of these characters that they did not want dictated by the show.

The fact that they kept Filoni and his core crew around says a lot to me about what they thought of the quality of the show and what they expect going forward.
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05.22.2013 , 02:21 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
I kinda figured, its more to explore a time that is relatively unexplored save for some comics and novels behind it. I mean with Clone Wars, there is already so much and while TCW added in some new things...we are still seeing clones, jedi and droids, something which has been seen thousands of times. Whereas we never have seen anything involving the Rebel Alliance or Galactic Empire, Rebels and Stormtroopers outside of the 3 OT movies, comics and novels.

Now we are gonna see stuff involving Rebels and Stormtroopers, perhaps giving them some importance...showing that Stormtroopers are indeed elite of the elite, give them faces and names, show the tactics of the Rebels. Explore things.
But is cancelling the show really necessary to achieve this? Star Wars is going to be around for a least a few more decades if not much more, there are no time constraints concerning exploration.

Now what you said would make sense if TCW was 'winding down' but its not, its be effectively decapitated. Entire arcs have been cut and threads left unresolved. Its actually a disservice rather than a service to the fans, yes everyone wants exploration of another era but not at the expense of existing stories, which are essentially now incomplete.

I think personally Disney should have let TCW run its course for at least another season, perhaps gradually scale it back, and then introduce Rebels. But cancel the show altogether? I have to admit that given the fact that Disney don't seem even to be allowing the remaining episodes on CN would suggest that really they just wanted an animated series of their own, and didn't want to share their franchise. Which sullies my opinion of Disney a lot.

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Wolfninjajedi
05.22.2013 , 02:52 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
But is cancelling the show really necessary to achieve this? Star Wars is going to be around for a least a few more decades if not much more, there are no time constraints concerning exploration.

Now what you said would make sense if TCW was 'winding down' but its not, its be effectively decapitated. Entire arcs have been cut and threads left unresolved. Its actually a disservice rather than a service to the fans, yes everyone wants exploration of another era but not at the expense of existing stories, which are essentially now incomplete.

I think personally Disney should have let TCW run its course for at least another season, perhaps gradually scale it back, and then introduce Rebels. But cancel the show altogether? I have to admit that given the fact that Disney don't seem even to be allowing the remaining episodes on CN would suggest that really they just wanted an animated series of their own, and didn't want to share their franchise. Which sullies my opinion of Disney a lot.
The show is still gonna go on, just not on TV remember? I mean ya it maybe shortened, but its still gonna finish up some stuff.
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05.22.2013 , 04:16 PM | #8
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The show is still gonna go on, just not on TV remember? I mean ya it maybe shortened, but its still gonna finish up some stuff.
I think the intentions remain though, I mean Disney couldn't exactly get away with cutting off the series completely. Nonetheless arcs have been scrapped, arcs that intended to resolve character stories.

I hoping that the two arcs that have remained will help end the story however. 'Bonus content' just doesn't sound all that conclusive though.

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05.22.2013 , 08:05 PM | #9
My theory is that TCW was too dark/violent for Disney Channel.

Obviously this is just my speculation. But for a kids show, to be shown on the mother of all kid show channels, TCW seemed to break the mold when it came to controversial topics for kids to watch. The slavery episodes, for example. The constant displays of the dark side and its evil powers. Etc.

I think this new series will not focus so much on those more "mature" aspects of the Star Wars universe. For example: less Sith action. I think it'll probably be more action-based, and less focused on characters such as Krell, Anakin, or Ventress and their seduction to the dark side.

Just my theory, but I don't know of any show on Disney Channel like TCW when it comes to violence and mature themes.
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05.23.2013 , 01:18 AM | #10
I loved the TCW. I didn't want to see it canceled and, if they were going to wind down the series, then I think they should have let them finish out Season 6 which was already half completed anyway so that the series could be wrapped up properly. However, the basis for the decision has been reported in numerous places as Disney and Kennedy wanting to shift away from the Prequels. I never thought this would be a post-ROTJ series as that would make no sense to tie up the hands of JJ Abrams and the others to have to fit the movies into storylines created by an animated series. I always thought the time period between Episodes III and IV was most likely as it's a blank slate area of 20 years time and won't impact the new movies, they can pull characters from both sets of movies, etc. TCW was a great series but it did run for 5 seasons and over 100 episodes. There wasn't much left to tell before we ran into Episode III anyway. So it's not like the show would be going on for another 5-6 seasons anyway.

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It is obvious that Disney are not short of hands or talent, and have no need to move the TCW team to working on the movies - this is evident as more or less the same team is now working on the new animated series.
If they wanted to get going on a new series though, then they'd need to get those people off of TCW and onto the new series.

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So Rebels will not capitalize on the hype either, and will draw in no more viewers that TCW already had.
Well that's just a blanket assumption. There's really no basis for that statement. Even though I loved TCW, Rebels v. Vader/Emperor/Stormtroopers is infinitely more appealing than Jedi/Clones v. Droids.

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Right now the only reason I can come up with for cancelling a perfectly good and successful series and replacing it with another (made by the same people) is to have an animated series on their own Disney Channel. To be this just seems petty, and I hope its not the case.
That's absolutely not the case. TCW operated on a year to year basis with the Cartoon Network. They were not under any contract with the Cartoon Network for Season 6 and so Disney could have shown TCW on it's own channels if it wanted to do so.