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The future of Companions


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Callaron
03.26.2013 , 11:06 PM | #1
Nope, I'm not talking about Firefly here - even though it would've been nice to see what the future held for Inara... I'm talking about the loyal sidekicks to our characters here on SWTOR.
During the recent interview Bruce Maclean stated:

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Will we see the inclusion of future companions, related to class stories or otherwise?
Yes! Adding new companions to class stories is harder than it sounds though, so new companions will more likely have their own storylines like HK-51.
Which as someone that has HK-51, I find to be very troublesome news...
If they get implemented like HK it means they'll basically be glorified pets, who will never talk during cutscenes, who will never care what you say or do during the stories - and who are on top of that, designed to be huge credit sinks and nothing more, since the only way to get affection with them will be by force feeding them gifts they somewhat like...
And of course there might also be some steep costs attached to getting them... like the item you have to buy for HK, which costs... 250k?
Am I the only one worried about this?
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SithKoriandr
03.26.2013 , 11:18 PM | #2
I don't think any future companions will be obtained the same way HK is...at least...I hope not.
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Callaron
03.27.2013 , 12:01 AM | #3
Speaking of companions, any idea on what's in store for them with Makeb?
Do they talk occasionally like they did during the class quests, or are they just there as scenery? =/
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Jenzali
03.27.2013 , 12:29 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Callaron View Post
Speaking of companions, any idea on what's in store for them with Makeb?
Do they talk occasionally like they did during the class quests, or are they just there as scenery? =/
It's been confirmed that companions (including HK-51) have affection gains and losses from cutscenes and speak when entering locations in the game world of Makeb. As far as I know no one has (yet) reported companions having their own lines during Makeb cutscenes, which is to be expected, I suppose, since companions only ever had their own lines in class-specific stories.
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Bleeters
03.27.2013 , 12:30 AM | #5
Just to note, you can get approval with HK-51 in some conversations. I noticed Kaon under siege had approval changes based on what I said and did. But yes, I agree. I'd be pretty disappointed if companions only every spoke in their own conversations aboard ship or in a cantina, and the rest of the time were essentially walking turrets. Hell, Dorne is supposed to my Trooper's second in command, but she hasn't said a peep outside of telling me to hold still since Corellia.

I think what's going to bug me with more general companions as well is actually making them make sense for everybody. HK-51 mostly did - though I had a hard time justifying why my Jedi characters or my Smuggler would want an assassin droid around, let alone send him on missions - but beyond that? Unless they just keep on adding droids, how is their simultaneous presence aboard multiple ships of both factions going to work?

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Speaking of companions, any idea on what's in store for them with Makeb?
Do they talk occasionally like they did during the class quests, or are they just there as scenery? =/
I watched the quest cutscenes Dulfy put up on her site for the Empire version of the quest chain. I don't remember Ashara speaking at any point during any of them.

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As far as I know no one has (yet) reported companions having their own lines during Makeb cutscenes, which is to be expected, I suppose, since companions only ever had their own lines in class-specific stories.
Perhaps, but if they're not doing those anymore, I'd certainly like that to change.

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Dinoviking
03.27.2013 , 12:54 AM | #6
When they describe future companions that way, the first example that comes to mind that resembles what they are saying is Thana Vesh. She was a character that is included in the Imperial storyline on Taris regardless of class. Each and every class has to deal with her if they do the planetary story/quests. They could easily take someone like that and make them into an extra companion. These companions could even be completely optional, just like HK. You could have the character set up so that certain actions and conversation choices could cause them to join you, others could cause them to hate you, and refuse to join you. There could even be conversation choices that could make yo have to fight and kill them, or maybe fight them in order to subdue them and force them to join you.

I actually kind of like the idea, but only if it is implemented in a way that makes sense. The way you get HK, all the hoops you have to jump through, all the different planets you have to go to, the expense involved, I never liked it at all. HK is a perfect example of how NOT to introduce and implement new companions. Thana Vesh is a good example of how it could work extremely well and make good sense. There are other examples of NPCs in game that could easily become companions as well. Most planets have one or two major NPC contacts included as part of the planetary storylines that could easily be modified to become optional companions. That being said, it would also be quite possible to add brand new characters, not currently in existence in the planet questlines, that could become the new optional companions.

These are just a couple ideas I had on the subject. Thought I'd share.

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Bleeters
03.27.2013 , 03:14 AM | #7
Well, if they want to make Cole Cantarus a companion I ain't gonna say no.

Dat voice.

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SilentKitty
03.27.2013 , 09:41 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Bleeters View Post
Just to note, you can get approval with HK-51 in some conversations. I noticed Kaon under siege had approval changes based on what I said and did. But yes, I agree. I'd be pretty disappointed if companions only every spoke in their own conversations aboard ship or in a cantina, and the rest of the time were essentially walking turrets. Hell, Dorne is supposed to my Trooper's second in command, but she hasn't said a peep outside of telling me to hold still since Corellia.

I think what's going to bug me with more general companions as well is actually making them make sense for everybody. HK-51 mostly did - though I had a hard time justifying why my Jedi characters or my Smuggler would want an assassin droid around, let alone send him on missions - but beyond that? Unless they just keep on adding droids, how is their simultaneous presence aboard multiple ships of both factions going to work?

*snip*
I am worried that there won't even be more conversations in a cantina or on the ship. Wish they would say what they intend to do with the companions in the future. I would like to know what happens to them. What will happen to Risha and her possible political future. How about the rest of them, I really like my little T7-droid. Will my character's mute marriages continue forever?

Moping a little at the moment, which feels very odd because I have never ever done that before during my time in SWTOR. I want to know that my crew will be more than walking sets of abilities and gear.

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Callaron
03.27.2013 , 01:08 PM | #9
I know how you feel, Kitty...
They said at some point that they had a lot more things in store for companions... but I'm getting the feeling it was just PR, and that their intentions are to just add more lifeless husks and call it a day... =/
Here's to hoping my worries there turn out to be unfounded and they actually come up with something amazing in the near future.
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Quellryloth
03.27.2013 , 01:23 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by SilentKitty View Post
I want to know that my crew will be more than walking sets of abilities and gear.
Unlikely. The problem is that there are so many of them. You may get some reactions in terms of +/- affection since that costs Bioware basically nothing and at most they might mail you letters, but I doubt there will be anything that involves voice acting. This is the drawback of fully voiced games: you need to hire an actor back to add dialog for any character. It's also why the new companions will probably be either available to all (like HK-47) or at most faction specific (i.e. not one per class).