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Scamper + Slippery Devil = skill shot?

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Scamper + Slippery Devil = skill shot?

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Wainamoinen
03.10.2013 , 06:06 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Zunayson View Post
It "Triggers dodge," and triggering dodge removes all removable effects - force and mental would be included.
That's what we've been told, but that assumes the brief description we've seen takes into account Dodge's cleanse effect. Would be nice to have in-game confirmation but it's tough to spot with the 1s duration, so I guess it's down to checking logs.

The buff you get when the roll-dodge triggers is "Slippery Devil" rather than Dodge, the text with it says something like "Immune to melee and ranged attacks" but doesn't mention cleanses. Don't get me wrong, it may cleanse, I'm just hedging my bets until I'm sure.
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ZUZiK
03.10.2013 , 09:04 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Wainamoinen View Post
That's what we've been told, but that assumes the brief description we've seen takes into account Dodge's cleanse effect. Would be nice to have in-game confirmation but it's tough to spot with the 1s duration, so I guess it's down to checking logs.

The buff you get when the roll-dodge triggers is "Slippery Devil" rather than Dodge, the text with it says something like "Immune to melee and ranged attacks" but doesn't mention cleanses. Don't get me wrong, it may cleanse, I'm just hedging my bets until I'm sure.
If the roll triggers dodge, it does cleanse all removable negative effects. Which can be pretty useful considering the number of lethality/DF snipers/gunslingers on the PTS :P However it has 50% chance to be triggered and 15 sec internal CD.
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Wainamoinen
03.10.2013 , 09:13 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by ZUZiK View Post
If the roll triggers dodge....
Is my point. The buff it triggers *isn't* Dodge, it's called "Slippery Devil" (as the new talent is - mouseover when it activates if you want to check), and it's description only refers to "immunity" from ranged and melee attacks rather than cleansing.

It may well cleanse too, I'd just like to confirm it. The difference in name makes me worry that it works differently, specifically that they've only buffed defence rating and not included the cleanse element. I am probably worrying about nothing.
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Ilmarinen 55 Scoundrel (Red Eclipse)

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ZUZiK
03.10.2013 , 09:23 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Wainamoinen View Post
Is my point. The buff it triggers *isn't* Dodge, it's called "Slippery Devil" (as the new talent is - mouseover when it activates if you want to check), and it's description only refers to "immunity" from ranged and melee attacks rather than cleansing.

It may well cleanse too, I'd just like to confirm it. The difference in name makes me worry that it works differently, specifically that they've only buffed defence rating and not included the cleanse element. I am probably worrying about nothing.
Don't worry mate. It cleanses, I've tested it on my operative. So I'm pretty sure it should work for scoundrels too
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SabaTheHobo
03.10.2013 , 03:11 PM | #15
An interesting question that arises is now that we know it cleanses, when does it cleanse? Scamper only moves you 12 meters if you aren't snared, if memory serves, and 6 if you are. So if you're snared, and Scamper/SD removes said snare, does it do so before it checks and makes the 6/12 decision?
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Wainamoinen
03.12.2013 , 10:35 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by ZUZiK View Post
Don't worry mate. It cleanses, I've tested it on my operative.
Good to hear, cheers.
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Lyons_Crest
03.23.2013 , 03:02 PM | #17
I'm not 100% sure but it also looks as though they are nerfing " Blaster whip" and instead giving a speed bonus within the skill tree. This skill is in the right tree first tier, first box on the right. At present it seems we have the ability to increase the damage of Blaster whip by 8% with two ticks in it. However this looks to be changed from what I've googled so far, is this right or wrong?

Am sorry I only post here as I see there are fellow Operatives and Scoundrels so I'm sure if this is the case it would put a strain on any sort of dps or what little dps these guys still have. I personally feel that the dps is still too low for my taste especially when you roll a smashing mara or sent and average 3 to 500k damage per pvp match and the Operative or Scoundrel has trouble getting into high 300's per match at least for me but am still building EWH gear and I have a habit of stealing nodes as well which also lowers my dps standard some as well.

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oaceen
03.24.2013 , 10:45 AM | #18
that is true, but i don't think you've seen any of the other changes.

it is a nerf, but i promise you that it's more than made up for in other areas.

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Shoogli
03.25.2013 , 07:14 PM | #19
What I wonder is if this dodge gets the 1 sec bonus from the PVP set pieces.
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ZUZiK
03.26.2013 , 03:16 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Shoogli View Post
What I wonder is if this dodge gets the 1 sec bonus from the PVP set pieces.
It doesn't.
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