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EricMusco
03.08.2013 , 03:57 PM | #1 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Hey everyone,

As I am sure many of you have noticed, it has been the Community Team's goal to try a new direction in communication. We are aiming to speak with you more, in a more casual way, and with more information.

Some of you may have then wondered "what does this new approach mean for forum rules?" Actually, maybe none of you were asking that, but I am going to answer it anyway. The reason? Because that is going to change a bit as well.

Before I explain specifics I want to stress what our goals are for these forums. The forums are meant to be a place where people can come, express their opinions and have constructive discussions without fear of attack or harassment. Please always keep this in mind! Let's talk details:

Where we will be more lenient:
  • General "internet" style chatter. In the past we have been pretty harsh about some things, such as calling someone a "troll" or throwing out a "can I have your stuff?". We would remove these types of posts and they could possibly incur a warning or an infraction. In general, we are going to let this slide a bit more, but honestly you shouldn't be doing this in the first place. Just be respectful to each other.
  • Things that are usual forum "nonos" like bumping a thread or "necroing" an old post. We are not going to go as crazy actioning these types of things. That doesn't mean we won't just delete them with no notice. Again, don't do them, because if you are being disruptive, it can still lead to actions being taken against your account.
  • Posts that are often reported for trolling. These types of posts are not always the most constructive or involve direct feedback, but as long as they remain harmless and in good spirits we will err on the side of leaving them be.
Where we will continue to be very strict:
  • Any type of post or thread that is political or religious and this also includes analogies of the same type. I know some folks will not understand why we have this rule in place. The problem is that when you make a comparison which is religious or political in nature, it almost always derails that discussion into a religious or political one, which is something that just serves no purpose here. So please stay away from these types of posts as they will continue to be removed and will almost always include a warning or infraction.
  • Threads and responses that are vulgar or sexual in nature.
  • Threads where the only subject is another game or is very off-topic. At the end of the day this is still a STAR WARS: The Old Republic forum and so all threads should revolve around our game.
  • Callouts of any kind are strictly not permitted. This includes calling out specific players and guilds. To get one step further, even posts that appear to have good intent ("List of known ninja looters!") are still in violation of this rule and are not permitted. We want everyone to feel that the forums are a safe place for them and this type of post only serves to harass other players.
  • Intentionally posting false information in the hopes of "stirring up" the community. If it is very clear you have made a post with the intent of lying about facts in order to create disorder, your post will be removed and you will be actioned for it. This type of behavior only serves to incite negative reactions from our forum users.
  • Discussion of moderation is still not allowed.
New Infraction/Warning Structure

With our new policies in place on *what* we will action against, we are also making similar changes to our warning and infraction system. Although we are giving you a bit more freedom in what you can say, if you continually cross those lines you will be actioned appropriately.

In most cases, your first violation will net you a warning. This warning will remind you of what you have done and will act as a friendly reminder to avoid this type of behavior. (For severe violations, a user may skip receiving a warning and go right to an infraction.)

After you have received a warning, if you do something else which violates our forum rules, you will receive an infraction. All infractions are now worth 5 points each and suspensions will work as follows:

5 points - 3 day suspension
10 points - 7 day suspension
15 points - Permanent ban

TLDR: We want to provide the opportunity for all of you to be able to express your opinions, even disagreements, in a way that does not have you in fear of being reprimanded. However, even with this leeway we will not tolerate players making hurtful statements, harassing, or directly attacking each other in a way that is not constructive.

One thing I need to make very clear is that even with this change in forum rules, this does not change any warnings or infractions that you received previously. All of those will still stand and will not be reversed based on the new rules.

I hope that all of this makes sense as I tried to spell it out as clearly as I could.

-eric and the Community Team
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iamthehoyden
03.08.2013 , 04:40 PM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
After you have received a warning, if you do something else which violates our forum rules, you will receive an infraction. All infractions are now worth 5 points each and suspensions will work as follows:

5 points - 3 day suspension
10 points - 7 day suspension
15 points - Permanent ban
Just to be clear, a single infraction will result in a suspension?
Edited to add: Do warnings have a time limit in which they expire?
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03.08.2013 , 04:43 PM | #3 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by iamthehoyden View Post
Just to be clear, a single infraction will result in a suspension?
Edited to add: Do warnings have a time limit in which they expire?
Yes, a single infraction will result in a 3 day suspension. However to reiterate, unless it is a severe violation, you will always receive a warning before receiving an infraction.

Warnings do not have a time limit/expire but this doesn't mean you couldn't receive more than one warning before getting an infraction.
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iamthehoyden
03.08.2013 , 04:50 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Yes, a single infraction will result in a 3 day suspension. However to reiterate, unless it is a severe violation, you will always receive a warning before receiving an infraction.

Warnings do not have a time limit/expire but this doesn't mean you couldn't receive more than one warning before getting an infraction.
I see. Well, I'll just have to hope for the best then if I make a mistake or two. Thanks for the clarification.
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HomicidalWhales
03.08.2013 , 05:32 PM | #5
I'd just like to note that I do necro threads somewhat rarely (but I make sure that it's constructive and relevant), and those that say "Can I have your stuff?" are really just trying to be funny I guess. I hope you guys are somewhat more lenient on things the previous Community mods weren't able to be lenient on. I swear, it was impossible to make near-bashful remarks. Not that they're bad, but as long as they don't seem to be getting a rise out of anyone (like, getting any persons mad) then leave them be. Some near-bashful threads/posts can be constructive at times.

Also—one question. Any previous infractions placed on anyone's account can't message for it to be reversed for any reason whatsoever?

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irishfino
03.08.2013 , 05:35 PM | #6
On thread necro: What if the thread is being necro'd because the topic is relevant and creating another thread for it is redundant?
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EricMusco
03.08.2013 , 05:37 PM | #7 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by HomicidalWhales View Post
I'd just like to note that I do necro threads somewhat rarely (but I make sure that it's constructive and relevant), and those that say "Can I have your stuff?" are really just trying to be funny I guess. I hope you guys are somewhat more lenient on things the previous Community mods weren't able to be lenient on. I swear, it was impossible to make near-bashful remarks. Not that they're bad, but as long as they don't seem to be getting a rise out of anyone (like, getting any persons mad) then leave them be. Some near-bashful threads/posts can be constructive at times.

Also—one question. Any previous infractions placed on anyone's account can't message for it to be reversed for any reason whatsoever?
I guess the short answer here is that if you have already attempted to dispute and if the dispute was denied then yes, the infraction will stand. We are looking to change the rules moving forward and not looking behind.


Quote: Originally Posted by irishfino View Post
On thread necro: What if the thread is being necro'd because the topic is relevant and creating another thread for it is redundant?
Necroing is totally fine, especially when it is relevant.
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HomicidalWhales
03.08.2013 , 05:39 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
I guess the short answer here is that if you have already attempted to dispute and if the dispute was denied then yes, the infraction will stand. We are looking to change the rules moving forward and not looking behind.




Necroing is totally fine, especially when it is relevant.
Thank you for the reply, Eric! So helpful, you always are.

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03.08.2013 , 05:41 PM | #9
So long as you don't ban Sir Copperfield, I'm fine with the new rules. (He is one of the few funny thing I see on the site. )
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HomicidalWhales
03.08.2013 , 05:43 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by LtGeneralGezlin View Post
So long as you don't ban Sir Copperfield, I'm fine with the new rules. (He is one of the few funny thing I see on the site. )
Yes! His posts may entice trolling, but it really isn't attacking anyone or pitting any community members against each other. +1 for Sir Copperfield!