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PvP Commando Boycott! This Class NEEDS FIXING.

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PvP Commando Boycott! This Class NEEDS FIXING.

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oaceen
01.27.2013 , 04:30 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by DariusCalera View Post
I think he means that it bugged because it doesn't stop so much of the damage that we receive in WZs. Though, it's the same for the other heavy armor classes so I could be wrong.
yeah, that is the only thing i can think of, but he said commandos/mercs and NOT other heavy classes, so idk either

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ArchangelLBC
01.29.2013 , 09:56 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Skylarc View Post
Good lord.

I'll keep this as short as I can. Although I understand your frustration in the limited role of pvp gunnery commandos... There are a few things I will say:

1) Classes can be broken. They may never get fixed. It took WoW almost seven years to make retribution pally's anything but a sh*tty warrior, and I doubt this game has that kind of life expectancy.
2) Learn another spec. I stopped playing the game last march until I resubbed a week ago. Even before I unsubbed almost a year ago I was already running AS because it was more viable. And btw, AS is better PvP damage and mobility if your good.
3) Gunnery was designed with ops in mind. It's power is completely dependent on being stationary, why would that spec ever seem viable in PvP? You can't always play badz. Kind of reminds me of when Operatives were b*tching that concealment was crap in ops. Well no F*cking duh.
4) I agree that the class needs a little bit of buffing. A leap or pull, some other way to help evade damage, along with fixing first aid for healing. Maybe making us able to spec into survivability like resistance to mental or elemental effects.

I don't hold my breath. I won't stop playing my commando because I'm not stupid enough to play gunnery and they have plenty of potential in AS. Stop spamming GR and start spamming IR. Or maybe even become a decent healer, but that would just lead to more threads about how our healing is sh*tty too.
1. Classes CAN be broken. This game probably doesn't have that kind of life expectancy (though you never know). That doesn't excuse them. It doesn't make a broken class suddenly fun to play. Fix it BW.

2. Assault doesn't really fix things as much as people like to pretend it does. The commando version is still a mediocre spec. Semi-decent front loaded burst, but then you're twiddling your thumbs spamming hammer shot and IR on people or you're trying to hard cast Charged Bolts to rest HiB. The latter has the same problem as gunnery commando, the former is a good way to buff warzone damage numbers without actually contributing in any warzone where the enemy has a healer, plus spamming IR is just dumb considering it's high ammo cost.

3. Operatives have a viable complaint since concealment isn't really viable in PVP either. At least not ranked PVP. No ability to sustain and now even the burst is pretty lackluster thanks to all the nerfs. Meanwhile all 3 sentinel specs are viable in operations.

4. We need a buff not only to our ability to survive and get damage out but to our team utility as well. If they fixed our damage today the question would still be "why bring them to a ranked warzone?". Very few classes bring enough damage to the table to justify their spot in ranked on damage alone. Everyone else better bring something special to the table that makes them attractive to a ranked team.
In update 2.9 the game will simply uninstall itself for you.

-Wnd

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Amebia
02.01.2013 , 04:02 PM | #13
Grav vortex's now grant 4% crit rate per stack to everyone attacking a target.

Only if

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Bleeters
02.01.2013 , 11:59 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by ArchangelLBC View Post
2. Assault doesn't really fix things as much as people like to pretend it does. The commando version is still a mediocre spec. Semi-decent front loaded burst, but then you're twiddling your thumbs spamming hammer shot and IR on people or you're trying to hard cast Charged Bolts to rest HiB. The latter has the same problem as gunnery commando, the former is a good way to buff warzone damage numbers without actually contributing in any warzone where the enemy has a healer, plus spamming IR is just dumb considering it's high ammo cost.
That's my biggest grievance right now, really.

I mean, I wouldn't especially care that gunnery was a disaster in pvp and would generally accept it as 'the pve spec' if, in contrast, speccing into assault made the class uniquely useful. But it doesn't. It's an improvement, but you're still the poor man's vanguard.