Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

HM Terror from Beyond buggy as hell


bsbrad's Avatar


bsbrad
01.11.2013 , 12:10 PM | #1
Running the HM Terror from Beyound last night with my guildies and the first boss had major bugs, pools weren't spawning, adds instantly materializing and massive lag.

As we all experienced it the lag must have been server side, and could possibly be the reason of the other bugs. This was on the Begeren Colony server, also I got kicked out of the game 3x and another guildie once due to the server being full. This is unacceptable when in the middle of a raid.

Also network lag spikes were affecting the operation, with my pings going from 30ms -> 12000ms, I verified my connection, even power cycled my router and modem, switched networks all to no avail. Usually I get a steady ping of between 30-60ms.

As of right now the mechanic heavy fights just cannot be done due to these bugs.

Hope no one else is experiencing this as it is a real pain to do any operation unless you vastly overgear it and can afford to miss the mechanics.

Viperius's Avatar


Viperius
01.16.2013 , 03:10 PM | #2
Same bug happened to us just now on Red Eclipse..
Red pool appeared like 5-10 sec later than small adds.
Then healer got DCed and was unable to login back again.

Chaqen's Avatar


Chaqen
01.16.2013 , 03:15 PM | #3
Most likely the lag caused the tank who was tanking the boss, to loose agro, and for the swarm debuff to fall off of him/her.
-La'Mis Legacy- Proud Member of Hatred and PUGS

Biskibis-Operative -- Kemenotic-Marauder -- Chaqen-Darksin -- Wallabe-Sniper -- Belsapher-Mercenary

Viperius's Avatar


Viperius
01.17.2013 , 02:38 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Chaqen View Post
Most likely the lag caused the tank who was tanking the boss, to loose agro, and for the swarm debuff to fall off of him/her.
no-one complained about having lags, we had no lag problem
swarm debuff you mean Incubation? debuff that boss stacks on tank?

snowmon's Avatar


snowmon
01.17.2013 , 06:21 AM | #5
its not a bug, your tanks r doing it wrong.

watch the stacks.
lvl 55 PT DPS, ToFN Server

Viperius's Avatar


Viperius
01.17.2013 , 07:11 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by snowmon View Post
its not a bug, your tanks r doing it wrong.

watch the stacks.
stacks of Incubation?
tanks should swap boss only when add appears, right?

RikuvonDrake's Avatar


RikuvonDrake
01.17.2013 , 07:30 AM | #7
I guess you don't really know the mechanics, so let me explain them for you quickly.

First of all, mainboss gives a debuff called Incubation, this debuff is applied regularly on the target of the boss, which means that if tank loses aggro, a DPS can get this debuff. When the debuff runs out, adds will spawn, the amount is tied to the amount of debuff stacks the person who the debuff ran out had. This means that if a DPS gets aggro, gets two stacks before tank gets aggro back, two adds will spawn when the debuff on the DPS runs out.

The pools as well as the Jealous Male spawns at set times during the fight, those times are normally when tank has 7-8 stacks of the debuff, depending on how good/bad your tank is at holding aggro. You should make sure to switch tanks when the Jealous Male spawns, that means the red pool is there and you can have a DPS/Healer run into it and get all the adds when they spawn (which they do as soon as the debuffs on the tank that has Jealous Male runs out).

I guess your problem is that you have bad tanks that are slow at switching as well as are bad at gaining threat, both of these issues can be solved by either replacing your tanks or making them learn the fight and do this faster.
Gate Crasher - Conqueror of the Dread Fortress - The Eternal Warrior
Not Good Enough | Rikacha - Rikachu - Rikachi - Rebel Dream | Riku
Ruthless | Susannah - Fauna - Wildthorn - Krewel - Montör
Bloodworthy - Tomb of Freedon Nadd

snowmon's Avatar


snowmon
01.17.2013 , 07:55 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Viperius View Post
stacks of Incubation?
tanks should swap boss only when add appears, right?
as the guy above has wrote, no, swapping produces the adds, tanks only swap once the male arrives, if you swap prior to that or lose aggro then the adds will appear before the male and the red pool (red pool comes with male).

so basically only swap once Jealous Male arrives, not before.

slap any dps that over aggros, its their fault not the tanks. they have aggro dumps for a reason and should be using them on CD., and also controlling their dps.
lvl 55 PT DPS, ToFN Server

Viperius's Avatar


Viperius
01.17.2013 , 08:06 AM | #9
Of course we checked tactics for this boss before and between fights, but I never noticed that adds spawns when Incubation drops off someone.
Thank you for help guys.

Leafy_Bug's Avatar


Leafy_Bug
01.17.2013 , 08:07 AM | #10
We ran TFB HM as well last night and we had issues on Operator IX. We could not advance to the orange phase as the circle would never appear middle. So we would clear blue, prepare for orange, orange healer was staying middle, orange dps at console but nothing. Took 3-4 tries to get past this issue.