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Perhaps Wookie specie imposible

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Listerman
01.09.2013 , 09:54 PM | #21
Easiest way of going about it...
Does the species speak basic? Go with the voices as are.
If not, then just have their dialogue be the native gibberish over dialogue. I'm perfectly fine with that.
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ConradLionhart
01.09.2013 , 10:57 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by LUCASCASADEIS View Post
i mean, there aren't wookies jedis, only the son ( i think) of chewacca was jedi
When you consider that almost every strange species in the game can be force sensitive, from fleshbeasts to even rakghouls, and even the hint of droids of one day being force sensitive, I don't think making a wookie force sensitive is out of the question.
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Altyrell
01.09.2013 , 11:14 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Listerman View Post
Easiest way of going about it...
Does the species speak basic? Go with the voices as are.
If not, then just have their dialogue be the native gibberish over dialogue. I'm perfectly fine with that.
That works for NPC's and Companions but not for the Player Characters.

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WB = Will Beckman, Voice Director
DH = Darth Hater

DH: We have been told that players have the option of making their characters a non-human species. Will all players be voiced in galactic basic, be it English, French, or German, or will some be able to speak in an alien language, similar to Jory in the Bounty Hunter demo?

WB: The players will have the option of creating non-human player characters. However all of the player characters will speak basic as much of the entertainment in the conversations comes from the player character responses.

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AshlaBoga
01.09.2013 , 11:16 PM | #24
Wookies are a bad species because of VOICE ACTING. Wookies don't speak Aurabesh/Basic. They can understand it, and even write it - but they cannot vocalize Basic anymore than you can vocalize sounds over 9000 Hz.
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01.09.2013 , 11:51 PM | #25
http://www.darthhater.com/articles/s...versation-with

BioWare's Daniel Erickson posted a response to an inquiry regarding a statement he made during a PAX booth conversation in a thread on the official forums:

You said,

If you can't imagine it making out with Princess Leia, you probably won't be able to play it.

I think a large response would be that many of us have very active imaginations, and can imagine quite a bit, but for some clarification, what can't YOU imagine?

Read on for Erickson's full response.
Hey Folks,

Sorry for the confusion. Booth chat is, let's be clear, not an official information release. What you got was one line of an extended conversation that was had between me and one of the players at the booth. We started talking about what made a hero in Star Wars and then, once that was clear, there were some jokes about what the romances would look like had we gone for the toybox approach of letting you play anything in the action figure line. That's the part of the conversation the quote came from.

The first part was merely a repetition of something we've said before. Namely that lead characters in an RPG must be something the player can relate to. There has never been a movie or major Star Wars series with a complete freak job as the lead and that's because dramatically it doesn't work. We don't understand what it means to be a giant lizard or a droid or a walking ball of jelly. We love the weird characters but they are always the sidekicks, not the emotional connection in the movie. To do an RPG that way every NPC you ran into would have to react to you depending on their own cultural bias and the entire "into the strange" adventure that is Star Wars would be lost as you would be the strangest thing in the room. People would constantly be asking you for information about your weird species and their emotional content that the vast majority of players simply wouldn't have and their ability to really BE this character would be nil.

So whether it's Dragon Age, Mass Effect or The Old Republic, PCs are near enough to humans for us to crawl into their skin. They have generally understandable facial expressions, they don't look ludicrous speaking the basic language, they can interact with the rest of the galaxy without a constant "what the heck?" reaction from the NPCs. The freaks, the droids, the weird that we get to know and learn about--that's where our companions come in.

It's okay to turn to your companions and say "What are you supposed to be?" It's not okay to look in the mirror and say that.

In the future I can see a day where we would do a Trandoshan or Wookiee type story but it would have to be just that. Not a simple graphic swap where now your smuggler is a giant lizard man and nobody notices but a full class story where you learn what it means to be this strange alien and deal with the rest of the galaxy and their reactions. For the present, however, our heroes are our projections of self, headed into a galaxy of wonders and adventures.

I know that this isn't what some people want but I hope it helps them understand that game design isn't simply throwing random features into a game because they seem cool. You have to have a goal, a final holistic ideal that you're trying to hit. The Old Republic is, and always has been, about starring in your own version of a Star Wars movie. Not playing a background character from scene 5, not about living a humdrum day to day existence in the Star Wars worlds (there are no refreshers--sorry!) and not about pulling out the extended action figure line and getting to use it as virtual costume party. None of these are, by themselves, bad goals and could absolutely be fun in a very different sort of game. But in TOR they would work directly against what we were trying to achieve.

So did we limit species choice for romances? No. Did we limit them for our goal of bringing cinematic storytelling and the dream of living the Star Wars movies to the MMO space? Absolutely.

Hope that helps!

Daniel

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Amberres
01.10.2013 , 12:37 AM | #26
Fair enough, no wookies. But that doesn't mean we cannot get Kashyyyk as an expansion planet.

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01.10.2013 , 12:42 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
Wookies are a bad species because of VOICE ACTING. Wookies don't speak Aurabesh/Basic. They can understand it, and even write it - but they cannot vocalize Basic anymore than you can vocalize sounds over 9000 Hz.
That still doesn't mean they can't be playable. Just substitute the dialogue with Shyriiwook and subtitles underneath plus restrict romance options. Hey presto.
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01.10.2013 , 02:12 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Altyrell View Post
http://www.darthhater.com/articles/s...versation-with

BioWare's Daniel Erickson posted a response to an inquiry regarding a statement he made during a PAX booth conversation in a thread on the official forums:

You said,

If you can't imagine it making out with Princess Leia, you probably won't be able to play it.

I think a large response would be that many of us have very active imaginations, and can imagine quite a bit, but for some clarification, what can't YOU imagine?

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I was going to say, I remembered Daniel saying something that later on it could be possible. But they would have to deliver it in a way that it, from a story stand point, made sense.