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I do not agree with the inclusion of SGRs.

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I do not agree with the inclusion of SGRs.
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Count_Midnite
01.07.2013 , 06:10 PM | #231
Wow this post has gone on quite a while. SGRs win. Seriously. Just let them be satisfied with their lines and dark fade "love" scenes with the same gender. I personally don't see the hype, but you can tell that this fanbase should be satisfied. We people who care about the base content do have a lot of new gear, PVP Maps, Operations, and it is a Bioware game. Give them what they want already.

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chuixupu
01.07.2013 , 06:12 PM | #232
Again, it is simply a tiny part of the story updates. Operation and warzone teams are continually working on that content. Makeb was intended to be a major story update that started production a year ago. A HUGE number of people playing this game want story updates, even if it's not class story.

This is like complaining that Karagga's Palace was a waste of time as a whole operation because it drops Karagga's Hat and it's just a funny cosmetic piece and they wasted time designing that hat.

A SGR compatible character WAS NOT MADE AT THE EXPENSE OF FLASHPOINTS AND OPERATIONS.

This is total apples and oranges in production.
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Talon_Starfire
01.07.2013 , 06:15 PM | #233
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBBP View Post
Of all the things that this game needs, pandering to a tiny fraction of the community is not one of them. Since this is now a suggestion thread, I would suggest:
  • Continuing class stories.
  • Greater guild functionality.
  • SSSP.
I would not like same gender relationships either.
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VicSkimmr
01.07.2013 , 06:18 PM | #234
this is truly making a mountain out of a mole hill.

you want to know how much effort it will have taken to introduce this? the 2 normal NPCs that would be romanceable will now be coded to allow the romance dialog no matter which gender you are. that's it. the voicework will be gender neutral so it won't matter if they're talking to a male or a female. done.

they would have been doing the new voice work for the expansion regardless, now those dialog options won't be gender restricted. no extra work, no precious resources being diverted.
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01.07.2013 , 06:41 PM | #235
Quote: Originally Posted by VicSkimmr View Post
this is truly making a mountain out of a mole hill.

you want to know how much effort it will have taken to introduce this? the 2 normal NPCs that would be romanceable will now be coded to allow the romance dialog no matter which gender you are. that's it. the voicework will be gender neutral so it won't matter if they're talking to a male or a female. done.

they would have been doing the new voice work for the expansion regardless, now those dialog options won't be gender restricted. no extra work, no precious resources being diverted.
I don't lke the idea of changing current companions "personality"...Doc a man flirting with every woman npc's I talk with wouldn't fit....same for Trisha or Mako who is in love with another BH comp. They wouldn't fit into a SGR withouth LOT of changes. And those changes shouldn't be done.

Add whatever you want to new companions...but don't touch our current ones. We love them the way they are now.

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Altyrell
01.07.2013 , 07:01 PM | #236
Quote: Originally Posted by Royox View Post
Indeed. But let's play a mini-game here to make my point clear:

-You can make a massive announcement for all the internet (youtube, google....what you want).
-Swtor's fate depends of your announcement. If people don't join this game because your announcement SWTOR dies.
-You have to chose one of these features to announce:
- We have SGR.
-We have PVP space battles.


What would you choose?
Different Departments handles the Space Content and even then, writing what is said during the Space Missions and putting Voice Overs take less time then it does with creating SGR's. Even less time if they ever did PvP Space Battles. So yeah, that isn't exactly a fair comparison to use,

Oh and people wanting SGR's had waited a lot longer considering there is still Space Content in the Game, since the Game went Live. Now while there aren't any PvP Space stuff, there is no way to know that it is included in the SSSP. Speaking of which, the SSSP has it's own team devoted to it, so yeah.

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Telaan
01.07.2013 , 07:02 PM | #237
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBBP View Post
Right. On that note, I know a ton of people who, like me, love the Seahawks. That doesn't make us Seahawk fans a majority of the people around. You have also again failed to realize that this thread is not a debate on whether or not SGRs belong in the game. This thread is about their misplaced priority. Please keep on topic.

It doesn't matter what department works on what. What matters is that it takes resources to put in the work. I don't condone any resources whatsoever going toward satiating such a small amount of the playerbase with SGRs over other much-needed things that resources could have gone to.
I've been saying this through multiple threads. The issue I have with SGRA has nothing to do with societal, moral, or political ideologies; it has everything to do with SGRA being a very poor use of finite resources.

The existing romance arcs are shallow at best. The have no impact on your character's overall story. The relationships developed with your companions are no where near akin to Anakin and Padme. Once played through they cannot be replayed unless you roll a new toon. It will not help this game grow in any measurable way and it caters to a very small, but vocal, minority.

When mentioned in fleet chat, most players are baffled that BW would waste time and resources on such a thing when so many other glaring mechanics are missing. Most people couldn't care less about SGRA in general, but, again, do care that the game lacks optimization and many mechanics. There isn't a single undeveloped mechanic or missing feature that should be placed on the back burner or shelved, even temporarily, for romance arcs of any kind.

Ultimately BW should've never introduced romance arcs. They've opened an issue that has no way of being resolved with both sides being happy. However, people interested in SGR are able to roleplay it with other players and/or have same gender spouses via legacy.

This is a Star Wars MMO not a romance simulator.
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01.07.2013 , 07:03 PM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by Altyrell View Post
Different Departments handles the Space Content and even then, writing what is said during the Space Missions and putting Voice Overs take less time then it does with creating SGR's. Even less time if they ever did PvP Space Battles. So yeah, that isn't exactly a fair comparison to use,

Oh and people wanting SGR's had waited a lot longer considering there is still Space Content in the Game, since the Game went Live. Now while there aren't any PvP Space stuff, there is no way to know that it is included in the SSSP. Speaking of which, the SSSP has it's own team devoted to it, so yeah.
But u get the point of whitch one of the 2 choices would make a massive number of players to come to swtor right? That was what I'm trying to say. I know there are diferent teams doing diferent stuff.

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Altyrell
01.07.2013 , 07:09 PM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by -IceHawk- View Post
Bioware needs to balance PVP, address the multitude of year-old bugs, optimize its client, fulfill its obligations to the CE community, and then it can address SGRA along with new story content.
Those are basically different departments that handles all of those. Also, we will likely get new Flashpoints with the Rise of the Hutt Cartel Expansion and we just got a new Operation or two.

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Altyrell
01.07.2013 , 07:10 PM | #240
Quote: Originally Posted by Royox View Post
But u get the point of whitch one of the 2 choices would make a massive number of players to come to swtor right? That was what I'm trying to say. I know there are diferent teams doing diferent stuff.
No cause no one actually knows the exact number of Players who will play either of those.