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Kaggath Heats: Darth Malgus vs Prince Xizor

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Kaggath Heats: Darth Malgus vs Prince Xizor

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MasterMe
01.06.2013 , 10:24 PM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Ok you can hit me on the head twice now. As I see it, Xizor would already have tricked out his ships before hand getting access to them from when he started getting them. I don't see him going with the standard layout, he could rip the things he doesn't want in or can add stuff to them with Black Market tech. As for how long, well being the smart man that he is, more then likely he would have it all ready to go and getting it installed probably wouldn't take that much time if the crew knows what its doing.

Also Malgus doesn't have ships that are equal to an ISD...infact the Venator ships would be perfectly fine to go against Malgus ships. I already posted some ships earlier in the thread, but i'll put em up again along with a few others he can get.

1. AEG-77 Vigo- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/AEG-77_Vigo

2. V-wing Starfighter- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha...ng_starfighter

3. IPV-1 System Patrol Craft- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/IPV-1...m_Patrol_Craft

4. Interceptor-class frigate- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Inter...-class_frigate

5. Ixiyen-class fast attack craft- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ixiye...t_attack_craft

6. Kihraxz light fighter- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kihraxz_light_fighter

7. Rihkxyrk Assault Fighter- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rihkxyrk_Assault_Fighter

8. StarViper-class attack platform- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/StarV...ttack_platform

9. Stinger(Guri's ship)- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stinger

10. Supa Fighter- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Supa_Fighter

11. Vaksai- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vaksai

12. Venator-class Star Destroyer- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Venat...Star_Destroyer

13. Virago(Xizor's ship)- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Virago

14. Z-95 HeadHunter- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Z-95_Headhunter

15. Nebulon B frigate- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/EF76_...escort_frigate

16. A-wing- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/RZ-1_A-wing_interceptor

17. Y-wing- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BTL_Y-wing_starfighter

Also yes, pirates indeed used those ships.
You see, that's all very nice, but it doesn't mean a whole lot. All I see here is a bunch of specifics about Xizor's ships. It seems to me that people are looking at all this specific info and are thinking: "This indicates Xizor has better ships." Perhaps Xizor does have better ships, but that's beside the point.

My point is this: we don't know a whole lot about what Malgus specifically has when it comes to navy. Yet we seem to know a lot about Xizor's. This, in and of itself, doesn't mean that Xizor has better ships. Just because I don't know of 5 different fighters that Malgus had in his navy doesn't mean that his navy isn't as good as Xizor's. Am I making any since?

I just felt that I needed to point this out because in many of our Kaggaths (especially when one of the Kaggath-peoples is from the movie's era) one of leaders will have a all these specifics and those specifics seem to indicate that the given leader has a better army/navy. This isn't the case.


But regardless, I still feel that Xizor will win. I just wanted to point out what was on my mind.

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Wolfninjajedi
01.06.2013 , 10:39 PM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterMe View Post
You see, that's all very nice, but it doesn't mean a whole lot. All I see here is a bunch of specifics about Xizor's ships. It seems to me that people are looking at all this specific info and are thinking: "This indicates Xizor has better ships." Perhaps Xizor does have better ships, but that's beside the point.

My point is this: we don't know a whole lot about what Malgus specifically has when it comes to navy. Yet we seem to know a lot about Xizor's. This, in and of itself, doesn't mean that Xizor has better ships. Just because I don't know of 5 different fighters that Malgus had in his navy doesn't mean that his navy isn't as good as Xizor's. Am I making any since?

I just felt that I needed to point this out because in many of our Kaggaths (especially when one of the Kaggath-peoples is from the movie's era) one of leaders will have a all these specifics and those specifics seem to indicate that the given leader has a better army/navy. This isn't the case.


But regardless, I still feel that Xizor will win. I just wanted to point out what was on my mind.
If there is no specifics on ships then how do we know what Malgus has anyway? How are we suppose to tell just how good his ships are? We can't just go off of speculation of what they might be able to do.

Its like...its like....ok here is an example...

An assassin claims that his rifle can melt durasteel doors, but offers no proof or gives the details of his rifle. Now would you believe him based on what he just said, or would you want proof?

Am not saying Malgus' ships can't be good...but without evidence how can we really tell?
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Darksaberexile
01.07.2013 , 03:00 AM | #163
What role would the Voss as allies of Malgus play? It could further complicate a "faked death" or ambush on his space station by providing a warning. (Not sure if that's a valid point or not, first time posting in one of these)
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Beniboybling
01.07.2013 , 04:00 AM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by Darksaberexile View Post
What role would the Voss as allies of Malgus play? It could further complicate a "faked death" or ambush on his space station by providing a warning. (Not sure if that's a valid point or not, first time posting in one of these)
That would be a valid point but they never actually joined Malgus (I believe). They said they would join is Serevin won his battle, but he lost.

NOTE: I'll wrap this debate up later today.

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Beniboybling
01.07.2013 , 02:23 PM | #165
IMPORTANT ANNOUCEMENT: THIS DEBATE IS CLOSED

Victor: Prince Xizor

Darth Malgus: 30

Prince Xizor: 33

May I turn your attention to Round 5: Darth Traya vs Darth Plagueis of the Kaggath Heats.

Thanks for debating! That is all.