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Cargo Hold Bay Bugs


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-Holmes
12.10.2012 , 03:47 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Sunjammer View Post
I'm not sure how to respond to someone that who states the player has but 2 options and promptly lists 3, one of which answers his own question.

Is it especially late where you are?
My apologies. As I was writing it I had a sudden change of thought and I did not proof read my post. However, you still haven't shown me how EAware is losing out of all this.
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-Holmes
12.10.2012 , 03:48 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by nocturnal_K View Post
the simple fact is for buying a cartel coin bay2 before buying it in creds you will end up paying 4.8 million creds for your next bay on max 12 chars instead of 480k creds.
if you where to by the bay with cartel as your 3rd or 4th this just gets worse.

so the simple fact is unless you are buying bay 5 with cartel coins its not worth buying it at all cus if you buy it before your going to have to work tens times harder for your next.

Cartel items are suppose to benefit you not penalise you which is why i put it down as a bug because it should not be functioning like this and i cant see it being intended.
When you buy a new bay, it gives you the two options you have.
Spend 40,000 credits to unlock it, of 475 coins to unlock it.
You chose the coins.
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nocturnal_K
12.10.2012 , 12:06 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by -Holmes View Post
When you buy a new bay, it gives you the two options you have.
Spend 40,000 credits to unlock it, of 475 coins to unlock it.
You chose the coins.
Yup that's the point, if i had know what i know now i would not of done it.
Only have 4 chars at mo and thought at the time why not get the one for all chars as it will save me creds on each char in the long run. turns out that its now going to cost me 4.320.000 million on a third slot on all chars instead of the expected 480k. I was actually thinking ahead

in no way was it clearly marked that this would be the outcome, otherwise nobody would do it in there right mind. which is why i did not expect it

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silvercgull
12.10.2012 , 05:24 PM | #14
Go to Bastion Server and on the GTN buy an "Account Cargo Bay Access".....do it now please.


Thank you.
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Kaptain_Kabul
12.10.2012 , 06:22 PM | #15
People are selling the "cargo bay access" for 150K per unit on our serer.
I don't talk about 1-2 i mean pages over pages with that price?

Is this normal? I just upgraded all my bays for all my charcters for the price of 1 million.


i'am pretty sure thats not intended, but i don't know why that player is selling those cargo accesess dead cheap.
but the market is full with them.

Does anyone hae an idea
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Sunjammer
12.22.2012 , 07:55 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by -Holmes View Post
My apologies. As I was writing it I had a sudden change of thought and I did not proof read my post. However, you still haven't shown me how EAware is losing out of all this.
Just to be clear: the issue is with the account-wide version of extra cargo bay unlock not the per character version which you appear to be talking about. From what I have read people have exactly the same with the account-wide version of the inventory expansion unlock as well (which does the same thing but on a smaller scale).

Quote: Originally Posted by silvercgull View Post
Go to Bastion Server and on the GTN buy an "Account Cargo Bay Access".....do it now please.
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaptain_Kabul View Post
People are selling the "cargo bay access" for 150K per unit on our serer.
This thread isn't about the cargo bay access items but rather the extra cargo bay unlocks (i.e. cargo bay expansion items). Specifically it is about the financial penalty imposed on your existing or new characters when you buy the account wide extra cargo bay slot.
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Ratajack
01.06.2013 , 03:52 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Sunjammer View Post
If I follow your logic then, if I paid for the most expensive item, I should get the most expensive item. Correct?

When I bought the unlock the price "clearly stated" was 2 million credits or 475 coins for the character version and 1050 coins for the account version. I bought the account version so by your own arguments I had every reason to expect I was unlocking "bay 5" for all of my accounts. Unfortunately this isn't what happens: you pay the most expensive price and get the least expensive item for each character. For some this might be "bay 5", others it is "bay 4" and for the rest it is "bay 3".

Moreover it is my impression that only the price in credits changes: the price in coin is the same at all levels. Currently in game I can only see the coins price for "bay 4" and "bay 5" which is 475 coins for the character version and 1050 coins for the account version. However from what I can find on the net that is the prices at all levels. Consequently if you pay with coins your are always paying the "maximum" amount therefore you should be rewarded with the "most expensive" item.

Put another way my main and first alt paid 440,000 credits and now have 5 bays. My second alt has to pay a total 2,040,000 to get to the same position (he'd already unlocked an additional bay) while all my other alts and every new characters will have to pay 3,000,000 to get the the same position. I don't believe it was BioWare's intention to make our later characters pay more to get the exact same things. Therefore I don't think it is working as intended.
But conversely, if you had been on an alt when you bought that account wide cargo bay, you would have gotten a huge deal, the 2000000 credit bay for free. The price per bay is already set, no matter how you pay for it. The second bay is 40k, third 400k, etc or cartel coins.

I personally think the cartel coins is a better deal, even if it does only save me 40k per toon, because any and all future toons i create will already have that tab unlocked, and once i buy all the bays with cartel coins, i should never have to buy another cargo bay tab again. The same theory applies to inventory space.

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Sunjammer
01.07.2013 , 02:07 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
But conversely, if you had been on an alt when you bought that account wide cargo bay, you would have gotten a huge deal, the 2000000 credit bay for free.
No, you really wouldn't. Unless by "free" you mean "what you paid for" in which case you probably want to spend your next $10 on a dictionary before you get much older.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
The price per bay is already set, no matter how you pay for it. The second bay is 40k, third 400k, etc or cartel coins.
Which is exactly what is wrong with this system. The price in credits increases with each level but the price in Cartel Coins is constant. This means the value of each unlock varies drastically from character to character and from player to player. This makes the system inherently unfair. If the price in credits was the same for each level there would be no penalty based on when you bought the account-wide unlock (unless you had already maxed out a character but you can factor this into your decision). Unfortunately the price in credits increases dramatically which effectively penalises you (to the tune of millions of credits) for each character that has not bought the the cheaper bays before you bought the unlock.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
I personally think the cartel coins is a better deal, even if it does only save me 40k per character [sic], because any and all future characters [sic] i create will already have that tab unlocked, and once i buy all the bays with cartel coins, i should never have to buy another cargo bay tab again. The same theory applies to inventory space.
You are entitled to think what you want but it seems idiotic to me. Then again I don't understand why anyone gambles on the Cartel Packs. Personally I think saving 2m (or 3m) credits/character might be worth 1050 Cartel Coins (or 2100 Cartel Coins) but only if I used my complimentary coins! Unfortunately because of the way this unlock has been implemented this is only possible if you have unlocked the first 3 (or 2) bays on all 12 character slots and never replace a character.
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