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SWTOR Unleashed (game files in RAM to improve performance)

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SWTOR Unleashed (game files in RAM to improve performance)

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swanthon
12.05.2012 , 03:25 PM | #291
Do you have any info on what the rest of the file packages do or are for? For instance, for each of the game worlds, I see a "swtoren-us_area" version and an "swtormain_area" version - not sure what the difference is. What are the zed or misc areas comprised of? swtormain_gamedata, swtormain_gfx_assets, swtormain_global are also make me curious.

Overall, I'm looking to improve loading screen times for a level 50 player - aka operations, flashpoints, fleet - trying to figure out if I can select certain extra packages to add to the RAM disk to make this happen.

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Bugattiboy
12.05.2012 , 07:06 PM | #292
When I first start SWTOR Unleashed every time after I've shut my down computer it takes a minute or two to boot up because I configured it put 7.5 GB in a RAMDisk.

Is there any way you can change it so it doesn't have to recreate my 7.5 RAMDisk every time I want to start SWTOR. It's a great program, and I see nice improvements with it, but the fact that I have to wait like 2 minutes just to even launcher the game launcher is a big turn off.

Maybe you could code some determination logic into the program. Like, if the RAMDisk is present and is equal to the amount of MB booked in SWTOR Unleashed's settings, then skip creating the RAMDisk and launch the game launcher. It would still utilize the RAMDisk like normal, but wouldn't require an erroneous amount of startup time.

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exca
12.06.2012 , 02:12 AM | #293
Quote: Originally Posted by Bugattiboy View Post
When I first start SWTOR Unleashed every time after I've shut my down computer it takes a minute or two to boot up because I configured it put 7.5 GB in a RAMDisk.

Is there any way you can change it so it doesn't have to recreate my 7.5 RAMDisk every time I want to start SWTOR. It's a great program, and I see nice improvements with it, but the fact that I have to wait like 2 minutes just to even launcher the game launcher is a big turn off.

Maybe you could code some determination logic into the program. Like, if the RAMDisk is present and is equal to the amount of MB booked in SWTOR Unleashed's settings, then skip creating the RAMDisk and launch the game launcher. It would still utilize the RAMDisk like normal, but wouldn't require an erroneous amount of startup time.
It already does this. If you don't reboot between 2 game sessions (and if you don't "remove and quit" or "retail" in between them), it won't recreate the ramdrive since it's already there.
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DarthVitrial
12.08.2012 , 12:04 AM | #294
Quote: Originally Posted by exca View Post
Try version 3.3.2.196, I updated ImDisk for you :
http://www.metasharp.net/swtor/Swtor...hed_v3.3.2.zip
I don't have access to my SWTOR computer right now, but once I do I'll tell you if it worked.

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Psirebral
12.09.2012 , 05:01 AM | #295
There may be posts in here already concerning this but it is a lot to look through, I was just wondering if there were any other settings that will increase performance other than the ones you have listed in the spoiler? Particularly for PvP.

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Satanski
12.09.2012 , 05:04 AM | #296
Quote: Originally Posted by Bugattiboy View Post
When I first start SWTOR Unleashed every time after I've shut my down computer it takes a minute or two to boot up because I configured it put 7.5 GB in a RAMDisk.

Is there any way you can change it so it doesn't have to recreate my 7.5 RAMDisk every time I want to start SWTOR. It's a great program, and I see nice improvements with it, but the fact that I have to wait like 2 minutes just to even launcher the game launcher is a big turn off.

Maybe you could code some determination logic into the program. Like, if the RAMDisk is present and is equal to the amount of MB booked in SWTOR Unleashed's settings, then skip creating the RAMDisk and launch the game launcher. It would still utilize the RAMDisk like normal, but wouldn't require an erroneous amount of startup time.
Try using hibernatoin instead of power off. Works for me

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deadandburied
12.09.2012 , 12:02 PM | #297
This is more a "my hdd/ssd just isn't up to snuff". If you need unleashed to make the game better then you really need to look at correcting your hardware issues. I use raid 10 regular hdd/s and 1 ssd cache drive. Unleashed has a minimal inpact. Did not help min fps. Lowest is 35fps for me fyi with 250 on rep fleet cruising by the gtn. Typically it's 60-110fps. Maybe a 5% increase on average using unleashed. But may be a placebo effect for my system. I've stopped using it as a result. However my hdd/s with ssd cache does bench at 550mb/s.

I think what most people need is to run a few hard drive/SSD benchmark programs. For example, just because you're using an SSD doesn't mean anything. Make sure the hardware is working optimally. Switching from ide to ahci in bios for example would double your speed. Using an MS ahci driver over a say a marvell driver can help as well. Also don't use the Marvell ports as they seem to have the worse performance. Latest bios and or oprom along with latest drivers. Although the latest isn't always the best option. C3 and C6 states enabled in bios on some systems cause hdd/ssd performace to drop to 1/2. Gigabyte notorious for this for some reason.

Someone mentioned readyboost and using a thumb drive. Well my thumb drive benches at 25mb/s in my usb3.0 port. So that would be a huge slow down using that option. I'd suggest benching yours before trying it. Knew mine wasn't fast as it's a fairly cheap one. But i had no idea it was that slow.

Now if you only have a regular hdd and it's not running in raid 0 or 10 i'd think unleashed would be very helpful. Other than that i'd suggest you really look into optimizing your system.

Course if you have a lot of ram like 12gb+ and an ssd or raid 0 or 10 i'd still try unleashed and see how helpful it is. But if you find it is helpful think seriously about optimizing your system. Cause you really shouldn't need to use it with that setup.
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exca
12.09.2012 , 03:13 PM | #298
Quote: Originally Posted by deadandburied View Post
This is more a "my hdd/ssd just isn't up to snuff". If you need unleashed to make the game better then you really need to look at correcting your hardware issues. I use raid 10 regular hdd/s and 1 ssd cache drive. Unleashed has a minimal inpact. Did not help min fps. Lowest is 35fps for me fyi with 250 on rep fleet cruising by the gtn. Typically it's 60-110fps. Maybe a 5% increase on average using unleashed. But may be a placebo effect for my system. I've stopped using it as a result. However my hdd/s with ssd cache does bench at 550mb/s.

I think what most people need is to run a few hard drive/SSD benchmark programs. For example, just because you're using an SSD doesn't mean anything. Make sure the hardware is working optimally. Switching from ide to ahci in bios for example would double your speed. Using an MS ahci driver over a say a marvell driver can help as well. Also don't use the Marvell ports as they seem to have the worse performance. Latest bios and or oprom along with latest drivers. Although the latest isn't always the best option. C3 and C6 states enabled in bios on some systems cause hdd/ssd performace to drop to 1/2. Gigabyte notorious for this for some reason.

Someone mentioned readyboost and using a thumb drive. Well my thumb drive benches at 25mb/s in my usb3.0 port. So that would be a huge slow down using that option. I'd suggest benching yours before trying it. Knew mine wasn't fast as it's a fairly cheap one. But i had no idea it was that slow.

Now if you only have a regular hdd and it's not running in raid 0 or 10 i'd think unleashed would be very helpful. Other than that i'd suggest you really look into optimizing your system.

Course if you have a lot of ram like 12gb+ and an ssd or raid 0 or 10 i'd still try unleashed and see how helpful it is. But if you find it is helpful think seriously about optimizing your system. Cause you really shouldn't need to use it with that setup.
Very interesting comment about optimizing the computer. Though whatever you might say, your RAM will still outperform 10 to 100x times your SSD or SSD raid 0.
It's strange you got only 5% performance increase. Which settings did you use? What are your graphical settings?
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Karquile
12.09.2012 , 07:49 PM | #299
RAM will outperform an SSD by 10X or so, unless the benchmark is expanded to include time spent futzing with configurations, uninstalling/reinstalling, posting cries for help here, downloading patches and extra drivers etc, etc, etc. And it turns out that it's an extra 10X you don't need for SWTOR.

SATA 2.5" SSD's cost approximately a dollar per GB, they plug into any spare SATA port on your motherboard, they require no configuration (just a quick NTFS format like any disk), they run SWTOR like a dream with no alternate configurations or install directories or special launchers required, AND they run your other two or three favorite games right alongside TOR with no fuss.

I would only use a RAMdrive on a seriously obsolete PC with no options for SSD expansion.
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exca
12.10.2012 , 12:58 AM | #300
Quote: Originally Posted by Karquile View Post
RAM will outperform an SSD by 10X or so, unless the benchmark is expanded to include time spent futzing with configurations, uninstalling/reinstalling, posting cries for help here, downloading patches and extra drivers etc, etc, etc. And it turns out that it's an extra 10X you don't need for SWTOR.

SATA 2.5" SSD's cost approximately a dollar per GB, they plug into any spare SATA port on your motherboard, they require no configuration (just a quick NTFS format like any disk), they run SWTOR like a dream with no alternate configurations or install directories or special launchers required, AND they run your other two or three favorite games right alongside TOR with no fuss.

I would only use a RAMdrive on a seriously obsolete PC with no options for SSD expansion.
Fact : I already have an OCZ Vertex 3 250GB SSD, Core I7 2600k o/c @4.2Ghz, 16GB DDR3, Radeon HD5850 and it does help me a lot.
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