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Hotbars for "convenience"? F2P seems negative?

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Hotbars for "convenience"? F2P seems negative?

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DarthWoad
11.17.2012 , 04:05 AM | #1
Ive heard this statement many times before. "Well you can pay for more hotbars for your own convenience, no ones forcing you to buy it."

Youre right, no one is forcing them to buy it, if they dont buy it, they're likely to quit the game and never come back. This is probably the most ridiculous thing on the cartel market right now. Its more likely to drive players away from the game than bring them back.

If its free to play, then people should play for free without paying a penny. No, its not their problem, its Biowares/EAs problem that they have given these hilarious restrictions in the game.

Another point. Whats with all this stuff about F2P "having restrictions" "being restricted". It all seems so negative? F2P should be the base, you should advertise subscription as MORE than free to play.

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Valethar
11.17.2012 , 04:10 AM | #2
Subscriptions ARE more than free to play. You get none of the restrictions, and at a far cheaper price, than buying the unlocks on a freeloader account.

The people paying subscriptions aren't here to subsidize people who want it all but are too cheap to pay for it. If they don't like the restrictions, they can pay to avoid them, or go play with their pandas.
"Due to the massive loss of subscribers in our flagship title, we decided to cancel Blizzcon this year, because frankly, we don't think there's anyone left who would show up."

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Pollamayor
11.17.2012 , 10:51 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthWoad View Post
Ive heard this statement many times before. "Well you can pay for more hotbars for your own convenience, no ones forcing you to buy it."

Youre right, no one is forcing them to buy it, if they dont buy it, they're likely to quit the game and never come back. This is probably the most ridiculous thing on the cartel market right now. Its more likely to drive players away from the game than bring them back.

If its free to play, then people should play for free without paying a penny. No, its not their problem, its Biowares/EAs problem that they have given these hilarious restrictions in the game.

Another point. Whats with all this stuff about F2P "having restrictions" "being restricted". It all seems so negative? F2P should be the base, you should advertise subscription as MORE than free to play.
If everyone plays the game without paying a penny, then the devs don't get paid a penny either and the game shuts down. Which judging by your negative post history I am guessing this is what you want.

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Guancyto
11.17.2012 , 10:59 AM | #4
In another game, 2 quickbars would be fine.
In SWToR, 3 or 4 is not a matter of convenience. If you're playing a tank, some healers, or one of those ever-popular warrior/knight classes, having enough quickbars to put all your basic abilities on them is a matter of playability.

Yes, Bioware/EA is allowed to do this and we the customers will deal with that as best we're able. That doesn't make it stop being nonsense to charge for playability, and it doesn't stop it from being a stupid decision. They want these people to pay or sub, not to get fed up and quit.

This wouldn't change if the quickbars were one coin each.

"But you can solo without all of those abilities!" Oh yes. You know what sucks without them? Flashpoints and Warzones. You know what is one of the crown jewel incentives to subscribe? Unlimited access to flashpoints and warzones.

Not only is it nonsense in terms of game design, but it seems poised to actively help new players to the conclusion that flashpoints and warzones (and probably operations which are flashpoints writ large, right?) are frustrating wastes of time. This seems... a poor decision.

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Taltal
11.17.2012 , 11:20 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthWoad View Post
Ive heard this statement many times before. "Well you can pay for more hotbars for your own convenience, no ones forcing you to buy it."

Youre right, no one is forcing them to buy it, if they dont buy it, they're likely to quit the game and never come back. This is probably the most ridiculous thing on the cartel market right now. Its more likely to drive players away from the game than bring them back.

If its free to play, then people should play for free without paying a penny. No, its not their problem, its Biowares/EAs problem that they have given these hilarious restrictions in the game.

Another point. Whats with all this stuff about F2P "having restrictions" "being restricted". It all seems so negative? F2P should be the base, you should advertise subscription as MORE than free to play.
Why people QQ in the first place? You get full story content for free up to lv 50 for all classes. There are games which are f2p but far more restrictive compared to swtor. U should be lucky they didint introduced a shop with potions/buff packs where you can buy and have pay2win implemented.

Besides its not like people need 5 bars to be ''competitive'' in pve.