Will it really be that crowded tomorrow?

^This. Things will calm down in a few weeks. In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the "I quit again!" posts.

It's always more crowed after a patch.

HK-51 goes live... a much coveted companion for many

Freemium goes live... drawing back a lot of veterans cashing in coins for new shinies

Freemium goes live.... enabling a lot of new players to play the story lines for free


Yeah... going to be crowded.

If major patch releases like 1.3 were any indication - large crowds are quite possible. With extra instances now settled in and stable any crowd other than a WoW beater shouldn't pose any problems. But then, I don't forsee extra millions overnight. If it happens, cool. Would be a nice problem to have though a 20% increase in peak time players the first couple of weeks is more realistic. I could see published reports of over 1 million active players happening by the holidays.

i havnt seen any tv commercials at all. lotro advertised a lot on tv when it was going f2p and im sure that helped gather A LOT of players.

i dont see how swtor expects its playerbase to grow without advertising to new/casual players that they are going f2p

I do feel like holding off on advertising right off the bat might not be so bad....partly because I don't know how much faith I have in Bioware to roll this patch out problem free If everything is going smoothly, then for the holidays I say go crazy promoting the game, especially if 1.6 will have some more interesting things to look forward to.

Yeah..I plan on blocking rmt'ers (credit sellers) for about an hour straight after I log in tomorrow...after sending in some tickets for whatever issues arrive as well.

Armageddon is upon us!

If it's anything like every other MMO out there...

There will be a rush of returning players for the anticipated patch.

There will be a rush of cheapskates for F2P.

And in 2 or 3 days... It will settle back to normal pre-patch populations.

I'm thinking the exact same thing as the others on here, old players will return but I'm not really convinced that there is going to be such an increase in newcomers. In my own view I think this may be down to the bad view that people have been led to believe about the game by falling subscriber numbers etc. Although you never know Bioware may have a massive advertising campaign ready to come out tomorrow.

There are a two things people arent seeming to get about the model EA is going with here.

1. It will not be F2P, it will be buy to play with a freemium billing model. There is still the matter of a 15 dollar box cost that will keep most of the f2p crowd out of the game.

2. The free model is only there to get people who already played the game to return. Remember the quote by John Riccitiello that basically said the number one reason people left was due to the subscription costs.


The bottom line here is we wont see a resurgence in the population until EA developes and releases compelling content.

As it sits, I only stay subbed so my 7 year old son can play his way through the story on his guardian.

There is NOTHING compellin g about the endgame, the pve is too easy, and teh pvp is too repetitive.

No mini games, no world pvp, no compelling space experience....

The game isnt meant to be played like an mmo, and they have said as much. They expect people to play through the class stories they are interested in, buy crap from the item shop while leveling, muck around in endgame for a while, and stop playing.


Damion Schubert

"We have not focused on making our content replayable. We have taken a lot of heroic quests -- particularly the group quests -- and made all those replayable. What we have spent the most time on since launch is beefing up the legacy system, which is designed to get you to play the other really good content. We will probably continue beefing that up because it's our best stuff."


I dont see too much excitement in Swtors future honestly.

EA has pretty much chalked this one up as a fail, let go most of the staff, and given up on marketing.

The cash shop is pretty much there to milk what little money that can be milked from us until be get bored.