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1.4 Commandos.....Thoughts?

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1.4 Commandos.....Thoughts?

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Doomsdaycomes
10.03.2012 , 05:32 AM | #21
I left Swtor shortly after 1.2, for multiple reasons.

Coming back to it, I've found a renewed love for some facets of it. Legacy perks for alts, GF, Ranked PvP, etc...

As I was returning, I created and leveled a new commando to 50, and since my Merc is a healer, I decided to gear and play Mal as a DPS (Gunnery atm) commando. Half way into WH and well augmented, I'm regretting it. Perhaps I do not understand my roll, but it seems more often than not I'm more of a liability to my team then an asset.

Sure if I'm left alone, I can happily spam grav round, full auto, and finish people off with a quick Sticky+Demo Round+HiB. Any class can excel if left alone. It feels as if I can barely guard things, and half the time the only thing I can do is stay alive an extra 5-10 second until a sin/maurader/jugg/PT comes to actually defend the node.

I do manage to piss people off when I start off-healing our healer in a pinch, but I ask myself... why spend 31 points in gunnery if the only time I "shine" is throwing a few off heals at the right time?

To tie this into the topic... since 1.4 hit... I'm kicking myself for not beginning my Commando's WH grind as a Medic.

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ArchangelLBC
10.05.2012 , 05:09 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Doomsdaycomes View Post
I left Swtor shortly after 1.2, for multiple reasons.

Coming back to it, I've found a renewed love for some facets of it. Legacy perks for alts, GF, Ranked PvP, etc...

As I was returning, I created and leveled a new commando to 50, and since my Merc is a healer, I decided to gear and play Mal as a DPS (Gunnery atm) commando. Half way into WH and well augmented, I'm regretting it. Perhaps I do not understand my roll, but it seems more often than not I'm more of a liability to my team then an asset.

Sure if I'm left alone, I can happily spam grav round, full auto, and finish people off with a quick Sticky+Demo Round+HiB. Any class can excel if left alone. It feels as if I can barely guard things, and half the time the only thing I can do is stay alive an extra 5-10 second until a sin/maurader/jugg/PT comes to actually defend the node.

I do manage to piss people off when I start off-healing our healer in a pinch, but I ask myself... why spend 31 points in gunnery if the only time I "shine" is throwing a few off heals at the right time?

To tie this into the topic... since 1.4 hit... I'm kicking myself for not beginning my Commando's WH grind as a Medic.
Honestly it was mostly this way before 1.4 as well. DPS Commando/Merc is by far the weakest class under any sort of pressure in PVP. Very frustrating a lot of the time, especially if you aren't in a premade.
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Deewe
10.07.2012 , 08:28 PM | #23
PvP wise, gunnery Trooper:

The interrupt is nice but I didn't really need it as used the KB or the cryo grenade when needed.

10m on Cryo grenade make it mostly useless now. I want to stop enemies before they get in range not after.

The removal of KB made the Trooper useless in Hutball and well worse in other WZ.
BTW my Trooper don't need a root because it's a turret type of DPS.
We are static DPS. If you keep the root give more mobility to the Trooper.


The 70% snare is garbage. I used it at 50% dropped it and never missed it. Tried again the new one and it's still a waste of skill points, even in HuttBall.

All in all we got nerfed hard, Gunnery Trooper sucks even more in PvP and I don't play mine at all anymore.

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ArchangelLBC
10.07.2012 , 08:36 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Deewe View Post
PvP wise, gunnery Trooper:

The interrupt is nice but I didn't really need it as used the KB or the cryo grenade when needed.

10m on Cryo grenade make it mostly useless now. I want to stop enemies before they get in range not after.

The removal of KB made the Trooper useless in Hutball and well worse in other WZ.
BTW my Trooper don't need a root because it's a turret type of DPS.
We are static DPS. If you keep the root give more mobility to the Trooper.


The 70% snare is garbage. I used it at 50% dropped it and never missed it. Tried again the new one and it's still a waste of skill points, even in HuttBall.

All in all we got nerfed hard, Gunnery Trooper sucks even more in PvP and I don't play mine at all anymore.
Actually the root would be pretty awesome.....if we could use it at 30m. Would be great then. 4m? Just not very good.
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Deewe
10.07.2012 , 10:07 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by ArchangelLBC View Post
Actually the root would be pretty awesome.....if we could use it at 30m. Would be great then. 4m? Just not very good.
30m root: we had the cryo grenade + the shockstike KB

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ArchangelLBC
10.07.2012 , 10:24 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Deewe View Post
30m root: we had the cryo grenade + the shockstike KB
Roots aren't on the resolve bar though. And are usually on a pretty short cooldown.
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xxIncubixx
10.08.2012 , 01:25 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by ArchangelLBC View Post
Actually the root would be pretty awesome.....if we could use it at 30m. Would be great then. 4m? Just not very good.
this. or the root should have been given to commando assault specialist tree, there would make sense.

i still think commando should get a buff like lets say called... Digged in, after like 10 seconds of not moving , you would become immune to interrupts or something like that, if you moved the counter would restart again.

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Deewe
10.08.2012 , 08:29 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by xxIncubixx View Post
this. or the root should have been given to commando assault specialist tree, there would make sense.

i still think commando should get a buff like lets say called... Digged in, after like 10 seconds of not moving , you would become immune to interrupts or something like that, if you moved the counter would restart again.
Considering we can't move if we want to do DPS that would make sense,

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TUXs
10.08.2012 , 11:24 AM | #29
Mixed...

The cooldown on the interrupt vs 6 or 8 seconds for other classes makes it still a half **edit** skill.

Removing sticky grenade from the AP cooldown was AWESOME though.
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HybridCode
10.09.2012 , 07:19 PM | #30
I think the Commando still doesn't do enough damage. I have a 50 vanguard in battlemaster that out damages my Commando in full War Hero fully aug'd. I use the assault spec after using gunnery for a long time. Assault allows you to move a little more so I get a little more damage out of it. The problem, as far as assault goes, is u rarely proc HIB. Let's admit it, charged bolts is useless. It takes so long to cast that you always get interrupted and even if you do get it off it has a 55% chance of not proc'ing. You get more damage out of continuous hammer shot at that rate. What they need to do is make charged bolts instant and weaker. If not then make them run faster because the distance is useless. Not enough utility to stay at range from anyone really.