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Operative/Scoundrel from a Guardian's Perspective

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Operative/Scoundrel from a Guardian's Perspective

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calyptic
01.23.2012 , 05:18 AM | #41
Agree with everything you say. The thing i worry about is from a PVE perspective. This is a HUGE nerf 20% less damage on are opening ability and 20% less arm pen. The arm pen needs increasing imo.

Its also should wait to see what happens because alot of this stemmed from the consumables being stacked.

This is a LAZY way to nerf us. And if this happens we will never kill tanks. A 1v1 fight can be difficult with no CD's and burst can destroy are energy in seconds.

This needs holding back or re evaluating, im not saying it does not need fixing in some way because you cant go 4-5 hitting people with zero reaction from them. But this will seriously damage the class in PVE and make it totally useless.

Looks like BW's promise of every class and spec will perform in any situation is false.
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Saella
01.23.2012 , 06:43 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by calyptic View Post
Looks like BW's promise of every class and spec will perform in any situation is false.
It's been a hole month i realised that classes will never be equal !!!

Just take a loot at the sorcere group heal compared to the other 2 classes...
this tell you long how thing arent balanced at alll....
it heal twice as others, and can reach full group...

So lets make 16 mans Raid which one you pick ???

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Skuldar
01.23.2012 , 07:19 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by calyptic View Post
Agree with everything you say. The thing i worry about is from a PVE perspective. This is a HUGE nerf 20% less damage on are opening ability and 20% less arm pen. The arm pen needs increasing imo.
Maybe they want all PvE Ops/Scoundrels to spec healing since they obviously don't care whether they have good DPS.

I hate when classes get such nerfs because of PvP. They need some other set of rules in PvP so that they can nerf there without impacting the questing ability of a class. Same old stupid MMO story going on here: skill seems OP, nerf it hard; class kills fast in PvP, nerf it too. Nevermind buffing others, take the lazy way and just nerf, nerf, nerf, until no skill and no class is anything other than mediocre.

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DarthCnox
01.23.2012 , 09:13 AM | #44
These cries make me happy. I love them! Keep it up, scoundrels!!!

I love how they call the biochem change a 'nerf' when it is so obviously against the game design to have so many different buffs overlap. Cumon, show me a single MMO that ALLOWS that type of stacking. This wasn't a nerf, it was a FIX.

And keep crying that the stun 'fills the resolve bar' LOL. Keep perpetuating that myth! Makes the other changes feel even worse.

I started an OP on friday..got him to 24 by the end of the weekend (Even named him Opie, as in OP). By lvl 18, i was dominating PvP. It can only get better at 50. I'm going to keep playing it and abusing it until BW finally gets this class in the right shape (which, by my estimations is either remove healing completely from the 'dps class' or reduce damage 25% across the board).

This was a good first step, BW, keep it up. I'm sure you guys have the real numbers about what crits are being hit and what the REAL situation is in the 50 tier. I'm sure they really don't want to make changes to the class, they have better things to do with their time, so if it actually came to that, the evidence must have been pretty overwhelming.

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VirgiI
01.23.2012 , 09:30 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthCnox View Post
These cries make me happy. I love them! Keep it up, scoundrels!!!

I love how they call the biochem change a 'nerf' when it is so obviously against the game design to have so many different buffs overlap. Cumon, show me a single MMO that ALLOWS that type of stacking. This wasn't a nerf, it was a FIX.

And keep crying that the stun 'fills the resolve bar' LOL. Keep perpetuating that myth! Makes the other changes feel even worse.

I started an OP on friday..got him to 24 by the end of the weekend (Even named him Opie, as in OP). By lvl 18, i was dominating PvP. It can only get better at 50. I'm going to keep playing it and abusing it until BW finally gets this class in the right shape (which, by my estimations is either remove healing completely from the 'dps class' or reduce damage 25% across the board).

This was a good first step, BW, keep it up. I'm sure you guys have the real numbers about what crits are being hit and what the REAL situation is in the 50 tier. I'm sure they really don't want to make changes to the class, they have better things to do with their time, so if it actually came to that, the evidence must have been pretty overwhelming.
Yeah, I'm sure you were dominating PVP without the two skills that are getting nerfed (you don't get hidden strike till 36 and acid blade till 41) and without any of the stims that make you crit hard. Keep making stuff up, Bioware has been stupid enough to believe it so far. I had a level 50 juggernaut in full champ gear on my server the other day complain that he got 3 shot by a level 30 operative before 50s got their own bracket. You can do the math all day, but it is physically impossible for that to happen, a level 30 doesn't have any dmg skills besides backstab and even if that crits 3 times in a row it still wouldn't take away HALF of a jug's hp...