Hey everyone on the Republic side of the Shadowlands server. The best imp players have been putting together premades for far too long without us reciprocating.

 

This post is to see if anyone is interested in putting their name up for forming Republic premades.

 

Post your character's name and gsf total time played. If you have more than one gsf toon, post all the names of your toons and post the most time played. We can all then use it at a resource to friend each other and form premades in game.

 

Also, post if you have voice chat that we can use.

Edited September 27, 2014 by sentawan

Cym'baline 11d 21h 35m

Cymbalin (new toon)

 

My guild has Mumble that could be used to coordinate a premade.

Part of the reason that new toon did so well today was because of a pub premade of impside players.

Apparently someone doesnt remember the track from Dec to March.

Apparently someone doesnt remember the track from Dec to March.

Pretty sure pub side didn't run premades, imp side was just...well, frankly impside was underwhelming.

 

Your group managed to reverse it, so congrats. Wonders how long before you burn out from those turkey shoots like those early pub pilots did.

Massive interest I see

Your group managed to reverse it, so congrats. Wonders how long before you burn out from those turkey shoots like those early pub pilots did.

 

I don't usually trash talk, but aren't you one of those "turkey shoots" that I farm? Also... I would take you more serious if you didn't base your gameplay on farming every red power-up you can.

 

Bottom line, pub side on Shadowlands love to pull out T2 Scouts, Gunships and Bombers when I'm outnumbered... now we use 2 gunships against you guys and suddenly we are Gunship stackers, blah blah.

Edited September 28, 2014 by AAntan

Me being farmed? Think you need to recheck your scoreboard numbers. I'm consistently in top 3 damage and top kills pub, frequently the only one that manages to do any damage to your double premade. That's true in TDM and Dom, without the red dots.

 

No, I don't win. Frankly, your group almost never loses. But then, I don't run a premade. 1 vs 8 means my win/lose ratio takes a nosedive. Are you better then me? Who knows, come at me some time without an ion gunship overwatch and a drone layer nearby.

Pretty sure pub side didn't run premades, imp side was just...well, frankly impside was underwhelming.

 

Your group managed to reverse it, so congrats. Wonders how long before you burn out from those turkey shoots like those early pub pilots did.

 

The imperial side population was horrible. No questions. But you're delusional if you think there weren't several pub premades running through that time.

 

The imperial premade that currently dominates the server was formed as a response. The imperial-only players (actually largely me, since most of the original core group played both sides) were eventually joined by a few of the pub aces that decided to try for something more challenging than the rofl stomps of hordes of imperial 2 shippers. They just happened to like playing with us and stuck around.

 

Sadly, I think we may be doing a little too well... I had high hopes for Triamterene's pub 4 man as reliable foils, but I guess they got beaten badly enough often enough that they gave up. The Rogues haven't been a threat since a looong time ago. If you do get a pub premade of some actual quality going, that would actually be some nice competition.

 

The best games mostly have been where there are 2-4 of us on, and we're carrying a whole lot of new pilots. The 8v8 matches have been foregone conclusions for months, but we're still playing. The lack of new maps and ships and game modes is much more of a threat.

 

And we all play republic side as well.

No, I don't win. Frankly, your group almost never loses. But then, I don't run a premade. 1 vs 8 means my win/lose ratio takes a nosedive. Are you better then me? Who knows, come at me some time without an ion gunship overwatch and a drone layer nearby.

 

I can guarantee you "everyone focus brute-might" was said by no one on teamspeak, ever. Though since I'm not on it half the time, I guess I can't say for sure

 

Getting ion'ed while trying to pierce a bomber defended node isn't the result of some vast premade conspiracy. It's what a good team would do on its own anyway.

 

Regardless, I of all people will not be shedding a tear for anyone complaining about being focused. You have no idea what being focused is really like.

So let me get this straight, the problem is people using tactics and not just flying around like you have a psychological disorder?

So let me get this straight, the problem is people using tactics and not just flying around like you have a psychological disorder?

 

Exactly, the OP is used to matches where they can do Gunship ball and farm 2-ship players that have no clue... but if a premade or even organized players show up, have mercy on them cause they are not used to that.

You know, I believe I'm sensing some hostility here. We don't group up to crush the common pilot into the dirt. We group up because we enjoy flying together. Winning is just a bonus really. And unlike some premades I have seen running, we don't rely on gunship spam. We rarely field more than 1-2 at a time, and only reluctantly add more when the other team has 5+ gunships forming a firing line. Having a diverse team with multiple ship classes makes for a much more enjoyable game.

 

We also fly pretty frequently pubside as well. In fact I'm almost always giving out advice while I am on my pub gsf character. Thats because I want pub (and imp) pilots to improve and grow into skilled pilots. I welcome the challenge of skilled pilots. So please do form your own premades, competitive matches are quite fun.

Acrimous has a strict non-discrimination policy regarding who he crushes

 

Against obviously new opposition we tend to run our worst ships. But if there's solid pub opposition anywhere in the lineup then we'll run our favorites, and the foodships are just going to get swept aside if they try to interfere. Like Acrimous said our favorite comp (if there are 8 of us) tends to be 1-2 gunships, 1-2 bomber, and the rest scouts and strikes. What makes us dangerous is the concentration of talent, not VOIP or cheese team builds.

 

Again, please make an excellent pub premade. Unless we get cross server that's pretty much how we're going to get opposition when all of us are on. Most of us are too plugged into the server in other ways to transfer or play alts elsewhere.

Wow. I watch a lot of these posts, and some of the people here are very full of themselves. The group I fly with flies for the fun of it. When Xi'ao and his cronies are on, we just go do something else, because it's not fun anymore when we get spawn camped. As if that weren't bad enough on its own, almost immediately after many such matches, a few of them (who, as I understand it, want to remain nameless) like to come over and gloat over us, and tell us how bad we are. There's WAY too much drama behind Shadowlands GSF, mostly perpetuated by Xi'ao's cronies. Yeah, you're skilled pilots. We get it. You chased us off. Congratulations. When we see more than two of you on at once, we'll get off your turf, and go do something fun. Give yourselves a huge pat on the back, and put all your preppy, quintessential 80's, polo shirt with the collar flipped all the way up wearing, thumbs WAY in the air to each other for sucking the fun out of the game for new and experienced players alike.

Exactly, the OP is used to matches where they can do Gunship ball and farm 2-ship players that have no clue... but if a premade or even organized players show up, have mercy on them cause they are not used to that.

 

Gunship ball? LMAO... that would have required much more coordination than Republic pugs have ever done. I face this much more often then I've ever seen it on Republic running in pugs.

The point of this was to put together a premade of skilled pilots on Republic side to counter your imp premade. That would be fun, but as it stands, I hate being one of the few skilled players on Republic side facing 8-12 in primetime. Regardless of whether or not VOIP or coordination, a group of skilled pilots vs skilled pilots is the point of this post.

The point of this was to put together a premade of skilled pilots on Republic side to counter your imp premade. That would be fun, but as it stands, I hate being one of the few skilled players on Republic side facing 8-12 in primetime. Regardless of whether or not VOIP or coordination, a group of skilled pilots vs skilled pilots is the point of this post.

 

The problem with this is that you are looking for players with only one purpose (which is crush us into dust).

 

I admit that we run premades and stuff, but we don't do it to humilliate people... we do it because we like fly with eachother, we are friends, not some random top players that decided one day "Hey lets kill GSF on this server".

 

Believe it or no we got better by actually enjoying the game more than thinking on winning. Like Acrimous said before winning is just a bonus when you have fun.

The problem with this is that you are looking for players with only one purpose (which is crush us into dust).

 

I admit that we run premades and stuff, but we don't do it to humilliate people... we do it because we like fly with eachother, we are friends, not some random top players that decided one day "Hey lets kill GSF on this server".

 

Believe it or no we got better by actually enjoying the game more than thinking on winning. Like Acrimous said before winning is just a bonus when you have fun.

 

I had no ill intent with the original post. There aren't anyone trying to put together premades on pub side, so I'd thought I'd try. There aren't anyone advertising guilds for GSF except Rogues. They don't seem to run as much as they used to. I'm not trying to put together a "crush" team, just one that is competitive and not usual 1-3 good players and 5-9 causals versus your 8-12 premade group, in which you guys crush regardless of how heroic those 1-3 good players are.

 

Fully skilled/experienced versus skilled/experienced would be fun, wouldn't it? I know when I ran with Rogues in 6-8 premades and decimating pugs that it was not very fun after a while.

Edited September 28, 2014 by sentawan

I had no ill intent with the original post. There aren't anyone trying to put together premades on pub side, so I'd thought I'd try. There aren't anyone advertising guilds for GSF except Rogues. They don't seem to run as much as they used to. I'm not trying to put together a "crush" team, just one that is competitive and not usual 1-3 good players and 5-9 causals versus your 8-12 premade group, in which you guys crush regardless of how heroic those 1-3 good players are.

 

Fully skilled/experienced versus skilled/experienced would be fun, wouldn't it? I know when I ran with Rogues in 6-8 premades and decimating pugs that it was not very fun after a while.

 

Good luck getting something going. Pub side has felt moribund for months now outside the brief one week of conquest bonuses dragging a few folks back. Things were lively at least that week even if it was more Pub v Pub. Otherwise the queue's may be solid but it's either the same names, a new name that it takes all of a few minutes to realize is an alt of someone you know, or a f2p type with no intention of getting competitive. Maybe it's better earlier than I get online but I could count on my hands the number of Pub groups that weren't mostly solo folks (like me) against a premade look. Most of the time nothing is ever said in Ops chat before the match or during. So any Pub organization would be a good thing overall imo.

 

One of the few "fun" matches I've been in lately was last Thursday. We lost 50-46 or so but neither side devolved into a gs/bomber mess and mostly stuck with scouts and strikes. If we didn't have a couple of pilots that couldn't shoot a cap ship with their blasters welded to the hull (they did try at least but had no place among 13+ veterans) things might have gotten interesting.

 

I would like to help but I don't fly often enough these days to really be effective solo much less work into a team. When I do fly I seem to be more of a retro-destruction specialist than a useful pilot lol. I fear you won't find many "skilled/experienced" Pub pilots left on Shadowlands that don't primarily run in an Imp group or run way earlier than the better Imp teams.

 

I hope I'm wrong but it doesn't help that BW has made it clear GSF is behind the back burner (I mean, how do you roll back a buff or fix and not change the tooltip at least unless it's no concern of anyone ugh). So unless you're just in an active group you enjoy flying with there just isn't much to keep one around outside getting a weekly done or working conquest the really hard way. At some point in the next few weeks I'll finally finish the participation acheesements (1k matches/250 per ship type) and the handful of objective stuffs I haven't done and then I'll have a hard time continuing to fly. Running with a couple of guild mates one or two nights is all that's keeping me in right now.

Ugh, this bickering is pointless. I've queued both sides and seen the same things people complain about Imps or Pubs doing. I'll say that at least pubside I'll have about 40% matches where things are even (the rest we're either slaughtering the others or are being slaughtered). Impside... it's a lot worse. Unless I queue up with Xi'ao and some others, it seems like I'm always on a complete mismatch, and my alts not being as far along there makes it even harder to at least make a dent in the tough odds.

 

Not exactly sure what to say about the premade thing. Personally, I'd want to queue with smaller groups if I was Xi'ao and co., because when they're on a team of four or more, it's often like fighting Ender's crew. You can go after the front line, but then the gunships will pick you off, if you go after the gunships, they always have enough scouts zipping around that you can't finish the kill (none of their gunshippers is dumb enough to stick around once they start getting hit).

 

I'm sure there's some premades on other servers that can compete, but I rarely see a large group queueing together Pubside. I solo queue a lot, and when I can wrangle up some guildies to join in, they're either new to it or just decent pilots that like GSF, and it's usually just 3-4 of us. It's not a team of all stars. At any rate, I do my best against the good groups, but it seems like all I can hope for is to get a couple of kills while most of my team is spending most of the time dead... seriously... there have been matches where the majority of the time was waiting to be able to respawn. Not fun for anyone, I would imagine.

 

At any rate, I'm often up for teaming for GSF on either side. Can someone remind me what the GSF channels are for both sides? I can't find the thread in the Shadowlands forum at all and wouldn't mind grouping on there when things are quiet for my guild.

Not exactly sure what to say about the premade thing. Personally, I'd want to queue with smaller groups if I was Xi'ao and co., because when they're on a team of four or more, it's often like fighting Ender's crew.

 

Lately we been getting into more matches together since Imp side pilots dont like to queue, mostly because when I log in I hear that pubs are rolling them or stuff like that (Idk if they lie or no so...), but most matches we queue together we end up on 2 different matches or wargames. Also you might noticed you won't find all of us at one specific time because we all have a real life.

 

I'm sure there's some premades on other servers that can compete, but I rarely see a large group queueing together Pubside.

 

All servers have premades for everything, GSF isnt the exception... problem I saw in here and talked with people lately (pub side) is drama, e-peen fights or weird hate (supposed hate) that players have to eachother for no apparent reason, but I will leave that for the GSF channels on our server.

 

I solo queue a lot, and when I can wrangle up some guildies to join in, they're either new to it or just decent pilots that like GSF, and it's usually just 3-4 of us. It's not a team of all stars.

 

Believe it or no, we started taking people that want to fly with us and have fun on GSF... We don't care if you are skilled or no (that comes with practice), but we want you to at least give it a try before claiming it sucks. We don't bite, just talk with us and get on your ship.

 

At any rate, I do my best against the good groups, but it seems like all I can hope for is to get a couple of kills while most of my team is spending most of the time dead... seriously... there have been matches where the majority of the time was waiting to be able to respawn. Not fun for anyone, I would imagine.

 

We all had "those" matches where you get camped and/or decimated and you wish that you could fulfill the vendetta that grew on you during that small period of time... What's the best you can do? Dust out, get up and keep going.

 

At any rate, I'm often up for teaming for GSF on either side. Can someone remind me what the GSF channels are for both sides? I can't find the thread in the Shadowlands forum at all and wouldn't mind grouping on there when things are quiet for my guild.

 

Both sides is /cjoin GSF.

Edited September 29, 2014 by AAntan

Everyone knows Shadowlands is hugely lopsided in favor of the pubs and has been. Since the matching system fills solo queued players around premades it may give the illusion that the tide has turned when in fact it's just premade vs pug.

 

You get a real chuckle reading about pub gsf'ers posting here saying how good they are. Seriously, if you really think you are good then play the hugely uphill struggle on Imp side. Your five ship toon will lead a brigade of two ship imps into a struggle you have yet to experience. The days of crying over who stole your kill will be replaced by just trying to say alive in an all red three cap match after match after match.....

 

All servers have premades for everything, GSF isnt the exception... problem I saw in here and talked with people lately (pub side) is drama, e-peen fights or weird hate (supposed hate) that players have to eachother for no apparent reason, but I will leave that for the GSF channels on our server.

 

 

Both sides is /cjoin GSF.

 

Oh, don't get me wrong. You're going to have premades. I'm technically in one when I play with my guildies (only we're all over in the skill department, so who knows if we'll roll over the opponent or not--be it ground or space). I was just saying that--since GSF is a smaller group than ground PVP, for the most part--it'd still be nice to see fewer of you queueing together sometimes.

 

I dunno. It's a moot point, probably, because even in groups of 2-3, the matchmaker probably would grab you all most of the time anyway. And it's silly to say don't queue together for people that want to play together. I'm sure some Pubs didn't like me blowing them up when I queue with you all, even if I'm not often over on Impside. It's just so... night and day with your group.

 

I guess I just wish there was a better matchmaker system. I've lost track of how many times I've been in huge mismatches with you guys when solo queueing, but it's hardly like I haven't been on the reverse (I've had matches where I refused to use missiles or rockets to try to make it more of a challenge, but it didn't help much). *shrugs* Guess the best thing is to try to get more solid groups together, for all of us.

 

Anyway... see you out there, Starfighters (and thanks for the channel info).

I simply love the amount of whimpering and crying people are doing cause a few people on the server have managed to get skilled at flying the ships, HELL i would be better if they ever implemented joystick support so that the thing reset to zero when released. but that is neither here or nor there, get better, or stop playing and stop crying. A premade helps only in a tactical sense due to communication between pilots. what i'm trying to say, SUCK IT UP AND PRESS ON. that is all, good day sir