Xakthul Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Link doesn't work. Think I fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSpectre Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I consider myself a Revan fan. Easily my favorite Star Wars character. HOWEVER i do agree to a certain extent of what is being said here. They should wrap up the storyline because IMO, it's been over 10 years (i think) since Revan first turned up in KotOR. I love that game to death, i still play it from time to time. I think they should kill Revan off, and turn him into a martyr or sorts where pretty much everyone can level and come to some agreement for what he did and who he was. If i had my druthers, i want BW to put out Revan's death as follows: Game update titled "The Revanchist's Fall" and have an updated class story line (kind of like RotHC on Makeb), where the whole goal of the update is to finally kill Revan in one final clash between the powers. As people have stated, they could play this off where BOTH FACTIONS are after him by having Revan fall back to the dark side, still hell bent on destroying the empire, and the Republic trying to stop his genocide. (Please comment or speculate, i'm just throwing out ideas). And the storyline ends in Revan going out with a bang, and ACTUALLY dying. tl;dr? Extended story line for all classes that ends up in your character killing Revan. Revan is too good to die in a group Flashpoint... come on, we are more classy than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticara Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Revan is too good to die in a group Flashpoint. So was Malgus. <.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSpectre Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 So was Malgus. <.< Debatable. I always knew he was a throw-away character and i also realized it when he played no part in class story when he was in every single trailer and intro movie to this game. One had to put the pieces together to see that. Plus let's face it... Malgus isn't even CLOSE to stand up against Revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xakthul Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Debatable. I always knew he was a throw-away character and i also realized it when he played no part in class story when he was in every single trailer and intro movie to this game. One had to put the pieces together to see that. Plus let's face it... Malgus isn't even CLOSE to stand up against Revan. Would be an interesting Kaggath: Revan's original Foundry fleet vs. Malgus' combined Foundry & Stealth fleet. (With the appropriate upgrades) ANYWAY, the only reason I would ever play anything else with Revan would be for the greatest reason ever: Kill that overpowered bastard once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaliaya Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 He is gone. Utterly and forever. And I don't miss him. He claims to be a Jedi but he uses Force lighting to my poor Operative. Logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence_of_Light Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) He is gone. Utterly and forever. And I don't miss him. He claims to be a Jedi but he uses Force lighting to my poor Operative. Logic? First of all, he is not gone forever. I have no doubt he'll be back in some way, shape, or form. You can count on it. No body, no proof of death. Secondly, your logic is flawed; Force Lightning =/= Sith Many Jedi used Force Lightning in their lifetimes, including Jolee Bindo, Meetra Surik, Vrook Lamar, Quinlan Vos, Plo Koon, Jaden Korr, Galen Marek, Kyle Katarn, and even Luke Skywalker himself. Edited March 24, 2014 by Essence_of_Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaliaya Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Ok, ok, I'm not lore specialist. He may return as force ghost like that female jedi (exile?) in Jedi Prisoner questline or Master Orgus Din did. But I hope he won't return as living, that would be too much. I haven't played kotor but in swtor I didn't even like him; he is a bit full of himself. But again, it's my opinion:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence_of_Light Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Ok, ok, I'm not lore specialist. He may return as force ghost like that female jedi (exile?) in Jedi Prisoner questline or Master Orgus Din did. But I hope he won't return as living, that would be too much. I haven't played kotor but in swtor I didn't even like him; he is a bit full of himself. But again, it's my opinion:) On the contrary, I think it'd be better to have him alive so we can end his storyline in a satisfactory way instead of "He went bat***** crazy and was killed by 4 guys". That just isn't very heroic or logical and doesn't fit his character. After all, when defeated on the Empire flashpoint "The Foundry" he disappears in a flash of light which could be due to him (potentially) using Fold Space or Teleport. I agree with his story needing to be sealed, but not the way it currently is left. They should end Revan's story in a respectable manner, and one that makes sense. Edited March 25, 2014 by Essence_of_Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticara Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 On the contrary, I think it'd be better to have him alive so we can end his storyline in a satisfactory way instead of "He went bat***** crazy and was killed by 4 guys". That just isn't very heroic or logical and doesn't fit his character. On the contrary. Revan was always a Well Intentioned Extremist. See the Mandalorian Wars. He also was "brainwashed and crazy" by the Emperor before, and if Kreia is right, his entire campaign as Darth Revan also falls very firmly under the Well Intentioned Extremist category. His plan to wipe out the Empire and the Sith (while completely unrealistic) fits his character very well. After all he has already shown several times that he is willing to do extreme and downright evil things to accomplish something he perceives to be a good outcome. After all, when defeated on the Empire flashpoint "The Foundry" he disappears in a flash of light which could be due to him (potentially) using Fold Space or Teleport. Considering that he quotes Malaks dying words, it is very heavily implied he died in that force explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSpectre Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Considering that he quotes Malaks dying words, it is very heavily implied he died in that force explosion. That's what Revan would want everyone to believe, hmm? He is a master tactician, always planning ahead and is ruthless about it. He more than likely knew he needed an escape strategy just in case, and his was Fold Space. His quoting Malak was most likely a lesson in mortality(?) IMO. He realized he isn't invincible and that Inevitability is a *****. It's clear that is power is weaning away from him as the great ToR God (Revan) could be bested by even 4 people when he stood up against the Emperor 300 years prior. His time as prisoner and trying to keep the Emperor out of his mind and also to twist the Emperor's mind into keeping him at bay. Again, i'm a Revan fan but i do agree they should give him a proper hero's ending. Not in the open-ended way they did in the Foundry. Refer back to my post on the previous page on how there should be an expansion called the Revanchist's Fall. However all the evidence CURRENTLY implies he is still alive, mainly based off the fact BW Austin is so sketchy when asked about Revan and they ALWAYS say "Keep Playing and find out". As hopeful as i am about having a Dedicated expansion, i have a suspicion they will write Revan out like they did the Dread Masters: short "side" story, and a massive 16-man Nightmare Op to physically take Revan down. (16 people taking on near-God Revan? IDK about you, but that sounds awesome to me regardless). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence_of_Light Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) On the contrary. Revan was always a Well Intentioned Extremist. See the Mandalorian Wars. He also was "brainwashed and crazy" by the Emperor before, and if Kreia is right, his entire campaign as Darth Revan also falls very firmly under the Well Intentioned Extremist category. His plan to wipe out the Empire and the Sith (while completely unrealistic) fits his character very well. After all he has already shown several times that he is willing to do extreme and downright evil things to accomplish something he perceives to be a good outcome. Considering that he quotes Malaks dying words, it is very heavily implied he died in that force explosion. I admit I forgot about how much of an extremist he was, but that still does not deny the fact that, he should be given a better ending to his story. This is the guy who fought Mandalore the Ultimate, fought and killed his former best friend, Malak, went on a huge journey to get to DK, and after being captured resisted the Emperor's influence for 300 years. As to the "force explosion" part, I doubt that is correct. If you watch The Foundry ( ) he dissapears in a small flash of light as some lightning sizzles down. If you research Force Explosion on Wookieepedia, you can see instead of a small burst of light and some lightning; it is a huge burst of Dark Side Energy in which the individual is consumed by it (as seen here). To me that doesn't look like what happened to Revan, not to mention I doubt Bioware would kill such an important character off like that. Edited March 25, 2014 by Essence_of_Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Technically speaking, he didn't get to Dromund Kaas the second time around on his own. He was rather captured by Scourge and Nyriss, when he was about to land on Nathema if memory serves me right. Also, it's Mandalore. The Ultimate is highly displeased. Just kidding. Typos happen all the time. EDIT: How's it possible they never included his armor thus far? Edited March 25, 2014 by Darth_Wicked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence_of_Light Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Technically speaking, he didn't get to Dromund Kaas the second time around on his own. He was rather captured by Scourge and Nyriss, when he was about to land on Nathema if memory serves me right. Also, it's Mandalore. The Ultimate is highly displeased. Just kidding. Typos happen all the time. EDIT: How's it possible they never included his armor thus far? Typo fixed. No idea, maybe it'll be included in a pack sometime? As for the capture, I have no doubt that if they didn't capture Revan he would have made it to DK one way or another (or maybe not, but either way it is impressive he didn't go insane in the prison considering he didn't get to change clothes, bathe,talk to anyone besides Scourage & Nyriss, or leave his cell). Not to mention he left all his friends,wife, and his soon-to-be-born son behind (that is no small feat). Edited March 25, 2014 by Essence_of_Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSpectre Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Technically speaking, he didn't get to Dromund Kaas the second time around on his own. He was rather captured by Scourge and Nyriss, when he was about to land on Nathema if memory serves me right. You'd be correct. Still, he did alot of great things. IMO more and better than Luke ever did. But there is a certain point where one should "level out" before becoming a Force God. Luke was carried too far and now lots hate him. I hate him because like his father, he is a whiney brat. Revan still has potential when you think about it. But i feel that fans have ruined his image in a way by carrying lore too far and given that BW is making him look like he is invincible, people will go off in wild tangents and then it gets out of hand. Bioware (Technically Lucas) created him, it should be up to Bioware to end him. Not gonna lie, i'll cry when that day comes, but oh well. Means they did it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xakthul Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 You'd be correct. Still, he did alot of great things. IMO more and better than Luke ever did. But there is a certain point where one should "level out" before becoming a Force God. Luke was carried too far and now lots hate him. I hate him because like his father, he is a whiney brat. Caedus has been, and always shall be, my favorite Force God.... Also, I thunk we might already have a Mandalore the Ult. helmet (or one that basically looks like it.) The one thing that pisses me off is the idiot who tried to tell me the Opulent Triumviate helmet was the freaking Mandlore helmet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguiluna Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 IMO Revan should never have been in this game. He should've died fighting the Emperor, becoming one with the Force and going out a hero. His inclusion was just a ploy by BW to get all the KOTOR fanboys to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedillan Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Please no, I am so tired of hearing about Revan. Not every Star Wars game for the rest of time needs to revolve around him. It's bad enough that they had to cram him into SWTOR in spite of the fact that it's been 300 years since KotOR, let him stay dead in the Foundry. Agree that not all star wars games should have him in it, but this is an continuation of the Knights of the old republic game, its because of that game a lot of us even bought this one in the first place. All i want is a better ending for a character i spent a lot of time as, rather than a mid to late level raid boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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