StarTribe Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 /Signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adhit Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 /Signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuddlebolt Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I understand people can be unhappy with the non romantic attachment with Jaessa. I know I was when I heard about it. I am not playing my Sith as a goody two shoes, yet I am mostly light side because I am not a maniac who wants to kill everything. It goes with the background story I made for my character. (RP server) Thing is, after the initial shock, I am dealing with it. He already said no to Vette a while ago and he won't have a romance at all. Thing is, people here seem to forget that in the original game KOTOR you couldn't romance Bastilla AT ALL if you were light side. You had to be grey or dark. She only went for the bad guy and that's the way the character was. If you were light she would be almost humbled because she couldn't achieve it herself. No "Oh my!" moment for the good guy. Just replay the game if you forgot that! It's the same here. Jaessa is not a toy to play with but a character that they fleshed out with a personnality. If her personnality is not attracted to the decisions I make, so be it. It's like in real life. Would it be nice if I could get her anyway, sure. But it would diminish the character. That's not who she is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberbucket Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) While the option is there to turn her to the dark side, Jaesa doesn't have the same character flaws as Bastila. Bastila was arrogant and self righteous. Jaesa takes quite a bit of goading to turn. Even if you don't turn her to the dark side, you still turn her to the Sith side by highlighting the obvious flaws in her Master and thereby the Jedi code. I'm not saying it should be easy to romance her, in fact it should be tricky by all rights (although Kira Carsen isn't, but then considering her upbringing that's hardly surprising). At any rate, consider me /signed Edited October 22, 2012 by rubberbucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballsofpain Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Just reached level 40 with Jaesa at around 8k affection and I was beginning to wonder where the flirt options are, now I know as my Jaesa is light sided and apparent a no goer. Mint I'd love to see that changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verfallen Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 @tuddlebolt Actually your point about KOTOR is wrong. Kotor spoilers and Revan's book sligh spoilers : The official version of KOTOR is LS male revan romancing bastilla, and marrying her after. I also confirm to you, the LS revan had the option playing it like a goody two shoes. Did it at all sauces. But its the normal outcome that you turn her back from the dark side with your love for her, enhencing revan's view that not all emotions are bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgoaround Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I agree with and sign this petition! I think it makes sense that she could be romanced, especially since if you're both light side then you're trying to accomplish the same things. She talks about how you show her new possibilities and ideas... so shouldn't one of those be that it's ok to feel love? LET'S DO IT PEOPLE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myolinyr Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I like to pop in here every once in a while and make fun of you soft hearted pansies. Waaaaaaah! I want to be diffwent and still get da girl! Sucks to be you! Now, I'm off to slaughter jawas and get jaesa nekkid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fawnorange Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 /signed They need to make this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spothisto Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos_KidSWTOR Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Ok not to be a party pooper but Who playes Sith Warrior to be a light side pansy? Thats totaly contradictoray to a true sith warrior... anyways i think this is not in the game because SW are ment to be DS not LS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None_Shall_Pass Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) Well, I cant belive what i am reading ... And i have Ls warrior and i wanted to romance Jaesa. However from story perspective, not romancing her makes sense. She still follows the jedi code, she just looks at you as a Teacher, mentor and Sith who share her goal ( to change the empire from the inside). That means she belive in this ,, There is no emotion'' thing. Sadly it makes her dull character but thats for another topic. From game mechanic perspective, SW got two romances as a male and thats better then most of the classes. When you pick Ls you still get one romance just as SI,BH,JC,JK, and Trooper. If you dont like Vette you can just skip the romance or get some character you meet romance. Whine that any other classes dont have alligation romances it just ridiculous becouse SW is the only class with companion shifting alignment. When i heared BW removed option to kill some companions i thought they were making huge mistake. All in all swtor is about choices also so people would deal with the conseqences. But know looking at this thread ... Maybe it wasnt such a bad idea, sadly . Edited November 5, 2012 by None_Shall_Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegeshot Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Oh wow that's lame. I didn't even know you couldn't do that until this thread. Ugh. Dammit. That's kinda lame. /petition signed I didn't know either. Definitely signed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoralTelGwyn Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I would also like her to be light side romancable. /Signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoralTelGwyn Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Hopefully we will get a Dev post on the posibility of this soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinzual Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Ok not to be a party pooper but Who playes Sith Warrior to be a light side pansy? Thats totaly contradictoray to a true sith warrior... anyways i think this is not in the game because SW are ment to be DS not LS. Actually, if you take a few steps back and look at what a LS SW is really doing, it's downright devious and manipulative. Instead of killing everyone like Baras instructs him (in the case of romancing Jaesa) to do, the SW instead spares his supposed enemies to often have them swear loyalty to him. He knows Baras will eventually betray him, and is preparing for it. The Jedi you encounter actually expect you to embrace the Dark Side (like some posters here as well) and you completely throw them for a loop by going LS. Heck, one Jedi can be convinced to leave because he now questions if you really are evil, and the one who stays to fight you can be turned to the Dark Side merely by reciting the Jedi Code after he's beaten. Then there's Jaesa's parents, Baras wants you to kill them, but if you go Light and spare them, he actually believes you intend on having them serve him to have Jaesa be tormented. Not once does it enter his head that a Light Sight Warrior is telling them to serve Baras and the Empire so they can finally have a better life (in comparison to what they were at before) and to help in Jaesa seeing that not all Sith are evil. What's the guy's name? Ajunta Pual or somesuch? You encounter his Force Ghost in the first KOTOR in his tomb and he even straight up tells you that the constant betrayal and evil nature of the Sith is such a screwed up mess that as they stand, they have no chance at completing any real long term goals. You can even tell him that even after all this time, he can still be saved, he questions it until he finally tries and finds that his old master, back from the first schism is actually waiting for him to become one with the force. The Light Side Sith Warrior knows he has to kill and won't quite shy away from it, but he knows that pointless cruelty doesn't serve the Empire at all in the long run. He realizes just how bad the more obsessed Sith Lords can be for the Empire. They're so concerned with increasing their own power right away that most cannot see five minutes past their plans, and even Baras, as stated above, can be tricked rather easily by a Light Sith Warrior into believing merciful, compassionate, and even actions bordering on preparing for the inevitable betrayal (Sith always betray each other) as furthering his own goals exactly as he planned. The Light Sith Warrior lacks that elitist arrogance and acts in such a manner that people who expect him to be typical and visibly thrown for a loop and start to question things. I suppose the quickest way to say is that the DS SW is your typical, predictable psycho Sith we see everywhere in the game, but the LS SW is someone who values a good challenge and a worthy opponent to battle/kill. One is very short sighted, the other is always considering the long term aspects and how they can eventually benefit him far more than the Dark Side acts would provide for a brief bit of time. Bit long-winded, but I'm tired of people saying LS SW is a pansy who isn't a real Sith. The real Sith are technically the aliens who downright hate the current Empire and the so-called 'Purebloods' as well. Also, sometimes the Light Side's actions can be even worse for the victim than the Dark Side's actions. Black Talon's The General being spared could easily be seen as worse than simply killing him for defecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelious Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) I am sorry to say that yesterday I finally gave up and married Vette. I have a SW with neutral alignment, I chose LS Jaesa because I play Lawful Evil rather then "kill them all" style. I was around since the launch and had Vette at full affection with few unfinished quests just so I didn't have to marry her. But after all this time I think it's obvious Bioware doesn't give a damn about this thread. Sorry guys( Edited November 24, 2012 by Gelious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naevea Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Honestly what people don't get is this: Jedi are about order, rules and laws (lawful nuetral for you DnD players) Sith are about passion, be it hate, rage or love (Chaotic nuetral) Most people jsut associate Jedi as being "good" because they follow a strict code and sith as bad because usually passion comes out as hate or agression in society. In other words, a LS sith that romances Jaesa (were it possible) would not be a 'pansy jedi lover' but rather a sith that is showing passion through love and affection rather than rage and agression. /signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khayyinx Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Okay, i just finished the jaesa quest, and having read this thread i wanted to make her ds to romance. Killed her old mentor and her parents, but when the time came, there wasnt a ds option in dialog and didnt killed her mentor.. Now i have a ls jaesa even that i wanted her ds, and cant romamce nor change her alignment!!! /Signed Since a lot of people posted here with the same opinion and NO DEV REPLIED! !!! We should take this thread to custom service. We are the custimers and I pay to play this game, so we should be listened or at least replied!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggardpirate Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 /Signed. Stopped playing in March and just started playing again a month or so ago. Realized that I didn't romance Vette (at 10k w/ her) so I am playing the patient suitor for Jaesa on my SW...it's been a long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharnell Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Actually, if you take a few steps back and look at what a LS SW is really doing, it's downright devious and manipulative. Instead of killing everyone like Baras instructs him (in the case of romancing Jaesa) to do, the SW instead spares his supposed enemies to often have them swear loyalty to him. He knows Baras will eventually betray him, and is preparing for it. The Jedi you encounter actually expect you to embrace the Dark Side (like some posters here as well) and you completely throw them for a loop by going LS. Heck, one Jedi can be convinced to leave because he now questions if you really are evil, and the one who stays to fight you can be turned to the Dark Side merely by reciting the Jedi Code after he's beaten. Then there's Jaesa's parents, Baras wants you to kill them, but if you go Light and spare them, he actually believes you intend on having them serve him to have Jaesa be tormented. Not once does it enter his head that a Light Sight Warrior is telling them to serve Baras and the Empire so they can finally have a better life (in comparison to what they were at before) and to help in Jaesa seeing that not all Sith are evil. What's the guy's name? Ajunta Pual or somesuch? You encounter his Force Ghost in the first KOTOR in his tomb and he even straight up tells you that the constant betrayal and evil nature of the Sith is such a screwed up mess that as they stand, they have no chance at completing any real long term goals. You can even tell him that even after all this time, he can still be saved, he questions it until he finally tries and finds that his old master, back from the first schism is actually waiting for him to become one with the force. The Light Side Sith Warrior knows he has to kill and won't quite shy away from it, but he knows that pointless cruelty doesn't serve the Empire at all in the long run. He realizes just how bad the more obsessed Sith Lords can be for the Empire. They're so concerned with increasing their own power right away that most cannot see five minutes past their plans, and even Baras, as stated above, can be tricked rather easily by a Light Sith Warrior into believing merciful, compassionate, and even actions bordering on preparing for the inevitable betrayal (Sith always betray each other) as furthering his own goals exactly as he planned. The Light Sith Warrior lacks that elitist arrogance and acts in such a manner that people who expect him to be typical and visibly thrown for a loop and start to question things. I suppose the quickest way to say is that the DS SW is your typical, predictable psycho Sith we see everywhere in the game, but the LS SW is someone who values a good challenge and a worthy opponent to battle/kill. One is very short sighted, the other is always considering the long term aspects and how they can eventually benefit him far more than the Dark Side acts would provide for a brief bit of time. Bit long-winded, but I'm tired of people saying LS SW is a pansy who isn't a real Sith. The real Sith are technically the aliens who downright hate the current Empire and the so-called 'Purebloods' as well. Also, sometimes the Light Side's actions can be even worse for the victim than the Dark Side's actions. Black Talon's The General being spared could easily be seen as worse than simply killing him for defecting. I just had to quote this, because it was so wonderfully put. Good show, sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korwyn Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I once mentioned making Jaesa light side romance-able to Neil Pollner (the SW writer) and his response was "Don't start". He really wanted her to have only a dark side romance and for the light side to keep true to her jedi training. That is how he wrote the story. Good news is that he is no longer on the SWTOR team (he writes for Mass Effect now). So maybe the writer that took over his duties will find it in their heart to change the romance options. /signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myolinyr Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 lolz...keep dreaming.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surinen Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I hope it will never happen, I would like her to stay light side with an option in future on second attempt to turn her darkside. If she is true to the Jedi code or her training then she shouldnt romance with a warrior no matter how filthy with light side he would become Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Erman Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Actually, if you take a few steps back and look at what a LS SW is really doing, it's downright devious and manipulative. Instead of killing everyone like Baras instructs him (in the case of romancing Jaesa) to do, the SW instead spares his supposed enemies to often have them swear loyalty to him. He knows Baras will eventually betray him, and is preparing for it. The Jedi you encounter actually expect you to embrace the Dark Side (like some posters here as well) and you completely throw them for a loop by going LS. Heck, one Jedi can be convinced to leave because he now questions if you really are evil, and the one who stays to fight you can be turned to the Dark Side merely by reciting the Jedi Code after he's beaten. Then there's Jaesa's parents, Baras wants you to kill them, but if you go Light and spare them, he actually believes you intend on having them serve him to have Jaesa be tormented. Not once does it enter his head that a Light Sight Warrior is telling them to serve Baras and the Empire so they can finally have a better life (in comparison to what they were at before) and to help in Jaesa seeing that not all Sith are evil. What's the guy's name? Ajunta Pual or somesuch? You encounter his Force Ghost in the first KOTOR in his tomb and he even straight up tells you that the constant betrayal and evil nature of the Sith is such a screwed up mess that as they stand, they have no chance at completing any real long term goals. You can even tell him that even after all this time, he can still be saved, he questions it until he finally tries and finds that his old master, back from the first schism is actually waiting for him to become one with the force. The Light Side Sith Warrior knows he has to kill and won't quite shy away from it, but he knows that pointless cruelty doesn't serve the Empire at all in the long run. He realizes just how bad the more obsessed Sith Lords can be for the Empire. They're so concerned with increasing their own power right away that most cannot see five minutes past their plans, and even Baras, as stated above, can be tricked rather easily by a Light Sith Warrior into believing merciful, compassionate, and even actions bordering on preparing for the inevitable betrayal (Sith always betray each other) as furthering his own goals exactly as he planned. The Light Sith Warrior lacks that elitist arrogance and acts in such a manner that people who expect him to be typical and visibly thrown for a loop and start to question things. I suppose the quickest way to say is that the DS SW is your typical, predictable psycho Sith we see everywhere in the game, but the LS SW is someone who values a good challenge and a worthy opponent to battle/kill. One is very short sighted, the other is always considering the long term aspects and how they can eventually benefit him far more than the Dark Side acts would provide for a brief bit of time. Bit long-winded, but I'm tired of people saying LS SW is a pansy who isn't a real Sith. The real Sith are technically the aliens who downright hate the current Empire and the so-called 'Purebloods' as well. Also, sometimes the Light Side's actions can be even worse for the victim than the Dark Side's actions. Black Talon's The General being spared could easily be seen as worse than simply killing him for defecting. I bow before you sir. I don't think anyone can say it any better. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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