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02.24.2014 , 01:08 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Verain View Post
I always post in these threads to say:

No. Awful idea.

But first, a word about your "doesn't have a life" thing- the amount of time to download and patch and log in to SWTOR far, far exceeds all the time to get Skype, Ventrilo, Mumble, and Teamspeak combined. The ability to type in about 40 characters worth of login info is also trivial. If you are losing to premades, it's not because you magically have a life. Heck, if you can't even be arsed to speak to someone in a chat program, you're more likely to be the one without one.

Now, on to telling you why this idea sucks.

1- Existing COTS Solution = Reinventing the wheel.
There's several free solutions, and some are even free software. EVERYONE already uses these. This is a PC game, so it doesn't require special hardware or some odd condition or setup. If you find a group to run with, they are already using voice much of the time. So, what does this buy the community? NOTHING. But what does it cost Bioware? A LOT! First, Bioware has to start coding from scratch, meaning they have to task several people with this feature. Second, this feature, once added, will have to keep kicking around, so it will have to be updated with future features. Third, Bioware has to monitor or check this data path through their system, so it adds a whole other dimension to their live support / customer server, so that ENTIRE BACKEND needs to be programmed, and voice is not a cheap data stack to keep around. Fourth, they have to ensure that the features offered and quality offered are competitive with the existing set of free solutions which already work in the general case. This is awful. This reason alone is why this idea is bad and will never ever happen.

2- If you can't be bothered to download a couple megs today, the odds of you being worth talking with are really low.
If you step from "casual" to "hardcore" by downloaded any of the many free options to do team speak, and that strikes you as insane, the odds of you having anything resembling communications are low.

3- The voice channel is only as useful as its least racist member.
It took me all of half an hour to realize that open party chat on the Xbox is ludicrous. Of course, I still play with my friends. I'm sure you CAN find a good group, but at some point, you will run into a bunch of total asses, and then what? When some kid comes in there and spams the voice channel full of awful, not only does customer service have to be spun up on it, but no one will stay in the voice channel at all.

4- The voice channel is only as useful as its least skilled member.
More subtle, if you put a bunch of random people in the channel, one of them being abusive or moronic is enough to keep the good players silent, or they will just leave- but even if everyone has their head in the game, wants to win, and isn't trying to burn the house down, a bad player giving bad advice ("fly in formation! everyone follow me to B!") will be very disruptive compared to other chat forms.

5- Voice chat failed in WoW
Maybe you don't play WoW, but it's a safe bet that way over half of SWTOR players have. I mean, the game is mostly based on it in every way imaginable. GSF is actually most notable for being entirely independent of any WoW offerings, in fact. In any event, voice chat was added to WoW back in like Burning Crusade (2006 or something). Literally no one uses it.

Here it was broken for like several months:

Note the single pageness of that topic. Note how they IMMEDIATELY tell them to use a third party app, because that is how this problem is solved.

No one wants reinvented the wheel voice chat. No one will use it. It's a bad idea. If it matters to you, buy a public vent. Or use any of the existing public vents, such as oqueue, pick a channel, and spam the info before the match. Or do anything at all except ask Bioware for an expensive bloated feature that will be opted out of by every skilled player the moment some prepubescent voice joins channel and starts calling everyone chuweros.

( Chuwero is from , which has some curse words if you are seeking to avoid that).
Here is a solution to all of your proposed problems. 1 word.