Dawginole Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Didn't you guys tell us that the cartel market would not usurp the actual game? Everything cool added since 1.4 outside of Dread Guard and Elite War Hero has been introduced through the cartel market. And yes a lot of it is available on the GTN. But why have new mini-quests for rare mats not been introduced for the new crystals like you did for magenta? Why aren't the new mounts, pets or pieces of the new gear being introduced through mini quests, world bosses, or other content? Is this what we should expect for the future of swtor going forward, all new and fun pets, mounts, and gear being introduced in the cartel market and our two options are to spend real money in addition to our subscriptions or go do dailies to make credits to buy it off the GTN? If this is correct, then it sure feels like my subscription is going to fund the development of stuff to spend real dollars on rather than to be a value for value exchange. Update: Many are getting caught up on the "gear" in the title as meaning clothing. I just used this generically. Everything that is being added into the game is being added through the CM. Prior to F2P highly desired mounts like the Emperor's Throne and Meditation Chair would have likely dropped off an HM OP boss or a high level world boss. The new crystals introduced through random purple schematic drops in Section X and the most desirable off the new Section X world boss. Maybe that new fancy $18 mount would have dropped off Dread Tooth at only 3 stacks+. And the new pets would have been mini quests like we got with the bird egg and Tauntan jerky. The point of the thread is not what is "cool" or not. Coolness will always be objective no matter what the gear is. For example, most hated the Battlemaster Weaponmaster set when it was released. Now that it's gone, many are asking for it to be put back in the game as none valor limited orange gear. Game seasons change, tastes change, etc and so forth. The point is that ALL loot is coming through the CM and no new loot is being added through drops or mini-quests. That's a problem. Edited February 2, 2013 by Dawginole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuka Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 They want people to spend money which based on the number of Incendias in the cartel market, people are spending $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senorius Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Why is all the cool new gear cartel exclusive? Money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawginole Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 So all new gear that isn't dropped in ops or earned in WZ's will be cartel only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toweleeeie Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Paging Captain Obvious!!! We need your help!!! This Thread is introuble!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockerz Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 On the positive side more gear and cool looking items will be introduced at a faster rate than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holinyx Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 oh c'mon, there are at LEAST 30+ different orange mod'able sets you can have not including the cartel stuff. stop complaining. if they don't make the cartel stuff cool looking, then you won't buy it. hence, it's cool looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Just wait until we get cartel-exclusive mod parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 oh c'mon, there are at LEAST 30+ different orange mod'able sets you can have not including the cartel stuff. stop complaining. if they don't make the cartel stuff cool looking, then you won't buy it. hence, it's cool looking. ^This, find some orange gear you like, mix and match, mod it out and make your own outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSaberMaster Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 oh c'mon, there are at LEAST 30+ different orange mod'able sets you can have not including the cartel stuff. stop complaining. if they don't make the cartel stuff cool looking, then you won't buy it. hence, it's cool looking. Obviously you missed the point of his post and why he was asking it. Yes OP. All the good stuff is going to go to the CM. It is their cash cow. The days of questing for that cool new piece of gear died when they introduced the CM. So don't get your hopes up that you will be questing for the nice **** anymore. Open your wallet and pony up the $$$ for the good ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniz Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 you must play on the republic side. the empire side doesnt have that problem to such a large extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heezdedjim Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Sentences that end in a question mark usually contain some sort of question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawginole Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 you must play on the republic side. the empire side doesnt have that problem to such a large extent. Neither side has gotten any new equipment, mounts, or pets since 1.4 that is not from ops or wzs. Maybe you didn't fully get the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larity Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Let them increase the levels and difficulty of things first then complain about no new gear. Seriously, what level are the mods we have now in armor? 63? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabethchase Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Dollar Dollar Bill ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawginole Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Let them increase the levels and difficulty of things first then complain about no new gear. Seriously, what level are the mods we have now in armor? 63? What? Not one post in this thread is asking for more stats. There is new gear added to the cartel market every other week. New empty equipment, new pets, new color crystals, new mounts. There is NO NEW ANYTHING being added to the game except via the real money market. Why is BW not adding these things for subscribers within the game world without having to go through the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draekos Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think the jury is still out on this. The cartel updates are easy to deliver in a drip format. Content wise we got HK and quests with 1.5 and new PvP and space stuff in 1.6. 1.7 and Makeb will give us a much better picture IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConradLionhart Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If it was obtainable from in-game, less people would want to buy it. But, I am in favor of making it possible to sell all cartel exclusive stuff on the GTN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikHar Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Cartel market is mostly for free to play folks. Unfortunately, people who are subbed, also have to pay for items too. So we pay to play and then we pay some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Obviously you missed the point of his post and why he was asking it. Yes OP. All the good stuff is going to go to the CM. It is their cash cow. The days of questing for that cool new piece of gear died when they introduced the CM. So don't get your hopes up that you will be questing for the nice **** anymore. Open your wallet and pony up the $$$ for the good ****. if only there was a way to get Cartel Coins with out spending more money..... hmmm oh wait you can use your monthly alotment of CC on the items OR if only they allowed people to sell every item from the Cartel Market on the GTN... oh wait they do and people sell the armor pieces for in game credits. so.... you don't have to spend a single dime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSaberMaster Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 if only there was a way to get Cartel Coins with out spending more money..... hmmm oh wait you can use your monthly alotment of CC on the items OR if only they allowed people to sell every item from the Cartel Market on the GTN... oh wait they do and people sell the armor pieces for in game credits. so.... you don't have to spend a single dime Yeeeahhhh. 500 CC a month when the armors costs 1440 per set. Great solution to wait 3 months to get what you would like. And for the people who are selling those on the market, they are buying them with their real money to sell them. Somebody is spending money to gain the items of the CM. So what is your point again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlaBoga Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 There's a mistake in your title OP. Do you actually think the new gear looks "cool?" It's hideous. With the exception of the Valiant, Raider and Phantom sets. So 12/5 chestpieces are ugly as sin. That's not a good sign for the Cartel Market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yeeeahhhh. 500 CC a month when the armors costs 1440 per set. Great solution to wait 3 months to get what you would like. And for the people who are selling those on the market, they are buying them with their real money to sell them. Somebody is spending money to gain the items of the CM. So what is your point again? i get 700 a month but ok so whats your point? You have to wait? what's wrong with waiting? the point is if you want them right away you have to spend money for the convince. are you sure they are buying it with real money? Maybe they are just better at saving their CC. Can you prove they used real money? Also what difference does it make if they bought them and sold them? The point is YOU can get them with out spending real money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusRex Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 What new content for new gear to drop in has been added since the Cartel Market has been added? There will be new gear with new FP and OPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSaberMaster Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 i get 700 a month but ok so whats your point? You have to wait? what's wrong with waiting? the point is if you want them right away you have to spend money for the convince. are you sure they are buying it with real money? Maybe they are just better at saving their CC. Can you prove they used real money? Also what difference does it make if they bought them and sold them? The point is YOU can get them with out spending real money. The point is that all the good **** goes to the CM istead of from completing in-game content. That is the point. But I guess you wouldn't know what that means since all you and people like you care about is spending your dough instead of playing the game. But it's cool. Us old schoolers, actual gamers, like to actually play the game for our rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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